This is most excellent, I'd perhaps argue that the specular details are too fine when in direct comparison to the concept. Perhaps widen some of those scratches up. Exaggerate things a bit more towards the finished piece.

Otherwise I really like the details so far

Matt.

Cheers mate! thanks for the crits and feedback!

Here is a new material that being used for the last piece of flooring and soon for the door frame.




And a new render of the mehs with new material:



Any feedback or crits appretiated!

Cheers again.

Hi Guys,

Been a bit busy so not a huge amount of progress! I have updated the latest floor material however. The staining on the floor looked rubbish so its been changed and some additional specular details have been added.



I have also taken some time to take a step back from the project have another read through the posts and review the critique given so far. I still dont know how I feel about the scale of the scene and the door way in relation to the human scae ref. What is everyone elses opinion of the scenes scale?

I am also at a point where any crits will be really helpful so if anyone has any crits or comments on the scene I would love to hear them!

Cheers!

It's a little hard to tell the scale at the moment because there is nothing we as humans can relate to (not a bad thing, its early days). When there are some consoles/pipes in there, I think it'll start to get grounded a little more.

Are you using an environment map at the moment? Might be nice to get it looking really shiny. Try increasing the specular slightly and tightening the spec power to give it that extra 'sheen'.

One of my main criticisms is composition of the scene. Whilst the assets are nice, the scene itself looks a little 'flat' at the moment, like an old Half-life level. Looks more like its made of brushes than individual assets.

Try making some modular pieces and connecting those up. Perhaps some flat wall pieces with little shape variation, and then some pillars coming down. Then you could change some of the flat wall pieces for more detailed sections like with pipes or panels alongside the wall, for a bit of variation.

Perhaps work on the lighting a bit more too. Decide on a distinct direction you want to take this. Think about where the scene is set. In the concept, there is a slightly fog/mist, and the lighting is very moody and sort of creepy. Perhaps a Dead Space vibe would be good here, more along the lines of horror? Making some light models would help to define the lighting.

I know its a lot of criticisms but they're all constructive to really help make this scene shine, it has a lot of potential. Nice high poly-low poly baking!

Some awesome work dude, I've done a Paintover of a couple of my ideas which I think would add to the scene.
I think you need to break up some of the straight lines, if just with some colour. The yell tips on the base of the wall pillars, would break up some of the floor/wall lines as well as giving variety.
you could add a hint of a pillar on the right wall as well. given that the pillars are quite straight it seems odd that these pillars are only on 1 wall.
The small lights could have some emissive lighting, but also there's some wall sections without light, although this would be dull if everywhere I think you need to consider where these tiles are placed.
I'd suggest adding a few more points of interest to the scene, the plane on the wall could be a poster/propaganda/advert/game hint etc.
There's some alignment issues between some of the horizontal banding on the wall tiles towards the door at the top

Lol. just read liam's reply. and agree with everything he said xD

Cheers for all the crits guys! im making a list of stuff to change! thanks again for all the crits! Keep em coming!!!!

Hi Guys,

Cheers again for the crits ive been working on some of the pointers given. Ive had another look at the lighting and addressed some issues with exisiting materials.

I have also had a look at the other end of the coridoor thats not in the concept.

Here are the updated screengrabs:





And here are the updated materials:





Cheers again for looking and if anyone has any crits or feedback I would love to hear them!

I'm sure I don't need to tell you this but your mats are amazing, you really have these metal panels down.

how do you feel about working with CE3 so far??

The Fog looks a bit to dense at the minute, it's robbing your scene of contrast.
Right now theres no gradation in your shading, once you have the glowing panels in place you could add some blue lights to break up the uniform lighting along the hallway.
Another idea would be to change the colour of the light you have coming from the right side to also break up the shading, maybe a more saturated orange to compliment the blue in the hallway.

Very nice spec maps! x] I also agree the fog might be a little heavy. In the concept, the colors are much more saturated and vibrant than what you have now. How are you planning to address that?

Double post sorry!!!

@Tokoya: Thanks so much man! Im still seeing things I feel could improve on them, but they are the best of many many iterations! I love CE3 so far man, love the workflow for it and as a Max user I found the UI was easier to pickup than other engines! Thanks for looking and the feedback!

@Ark: Thanks for taking the time to crit dude, the fog is a bit OTT at the moment and needs to be reduced slightly im going to spend some more time bringing this under control. I like the idea of Orange lights and the smaller blue ones for the walls. Ill give these a try and post an update later mate! Thanks again!

@Jessica Dinh: Thanks re the specs, they are something ive always found really difficult and still feel as though I could improve on them. Im going to have a look at the fog and try and tone it down, regarding the saturation issues im not sure about how to address them, I think the concept get a gret deal of its vibrancy from the lighting so I think ill try starting to sort it from there.

Thanks again for looking guys! If anyone else has crits and feedback the more the better! really want to make this a scene I can be proud of!

Cheers!

Also I have this real urge to give this a system shock 2 theme?

What do you guys think??

instead of standard fog, it would be awesome to get some planes with a slightly animated fog texture, thta fade out the closer you get. dead space used these on their lights and in hallways for glows and fog that really add some wicked atmosphere without covering the whole scene in standard fog.

really great for adding depth and could work well here. I would imagine there are some already in cry engine or a shader that uses depth biased alpha somewhere to be found.

wow looking good so far. be sweet if you add some broken pipes, something to give the piece more life. is Nod2 a plugin or a program. Looks amazing what it can do

Oh my gosh! THAT IS AMAZING, uugghh. i want to be able to do this. lol

@PixelMasher: thanks for the advice, Im going to look into this I think your right it will definatly look better than the current fog as I feel it doesnt make sense. I think I need more localised instances of fog as you say. Thanks for the crits appretiated man!

@Iciban: Cheers for the crits! Im currently looking at what kind of items I can add to make the scene look more lived in and have more detail im thinking maybe some medical supplies on a trolley or something like that. nDo2 is really powerful man, there is a big thread on here going somewhere check it out. Its current form is an app that works in conjuction with Photoshop, I really love it.

@ageshero: Cheers for the comments man, its nice to think some likes what im making! thanks for looking!

Thanks again for the comments and Crits guys!

Keep em coming, im going to have some more progress later hopefully as Ive made some changes to the lighting etc.

Cheers

So more progress, ive tried implementing some feedback that you guys gave in your crits.

-Ive tried changing the light colour a little to some deeper blues and added some orange to the main light.

-Ive reduced the global fog level as it was overly harsh.

-Ive added some ground fog to the environment that fades dependant on camera position, this particle system ships with SDK.

Here are the updated grabs:




Anymore crits or feedback appretiated as they are really helping!

Cheers again.

use imgur.com instead of photobucket please.

Ya, imgur would be good, I can't see any of the images right now.

Sorry guys! Just in the process of re-uploading all the images and then ill update my posts. Didnt realise there was a bandwidth limit with photobucket!

Cheers!

Right then all the images should be working again now guys, sorry about that!

Any crits or comments appretiated!

Cheers

thanks, i'll be sure to check out nDo2.
What kind of theme are you going for? If your going for a more scary look. Something like dead space would be cool. Darker, some blood stains, broken pipes. Stuff like that

i dont know if this was mentionened here before, but the whole thing looks kinda "flat" to me.
maby crank up the spec by about 100%, this would get some more volume in here.
like that render of the wall/floor with the footprints on it, that one +30% spec and normal intensity should bring this to life a bit more.
right now it looks nearly like a max render, and i know CE3 can do a lot better than this :P