Marijuana has no medical use...
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At least according the US Government.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/07/federal-government-rules-that-marijuana-has-no-accepted-medical-use-.html
Maybe the 4th time will be the charm?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/07/federal-government-rules-that-marijuana-has-no-accepted-medical-use-.html
Maybe the 4th time will be the charm?
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and the whole area about it not being safe, well seriously, it is impossible to OD even if you were trying, and has not addictive.
sure you shouldn't be driving or anything like than when baked out of your tree, but there are tons of legal drugs that are the same.
but than again i don't care too much about the study living in Canada, in a province that really doesn't give a shit about this law.
Honestly, if they're sick, let them smoke. It did make me very tired though, and thats the only use I saw.
Actually passerby, you can OD, it takes 15 thousand pounds (you're metric though) of THC to kill someone. Thats impossible to consume at once though
Indicas:
slow you down, relax you and aid in sleep. no paranoia
Sativas:
make you feel energetic, but can have effects paranioa
it is actually a very very weak drug when put beside alcohol.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pro-marijuana-arguments-that-arent-helping/
but that is more of a per province, per city thing, dont think that would quite fly in some other city's
great article ace, i've only done it once and don't care to again, so im probably fine, but its a fun read.
I know Marijuana is used for Chemo in many places, but did you know after a while the effects wear off the person can be in greater pain then before? Or if they build a tolerance quickly enough, than it's a moot thing? Yet many people harp like it will cure cancer or kill all the pain? I would know this since one of my family members went through this.
Mein point eis simple: Stop making Marijuana into the Harbinger of Death or the Second Coming of the Messiah, it's simply a plant which has mediocre benefits at best and misuse by individuals at worst. It doesn't affect me personally, but it sure would be nice for both sides to admit that's it's nothing special.
On the other hand, Green Tea...that bitch kills if you don't have the raised pinky.
EDIT: Now that I think that, if it does induce people to become addicted, well that is a problem.
I guess eventually they might decide that people are too clever and creative to stop if they really want to do something and atleast if they did legalise it, control it and clean it up they could tax the crap out of it :P
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's as dangerous as alcohol Long-term_effects_of_alcohol however it is easily abusable and does have some quite severe long term side effects.
I'm not sure about your second point though, I do partially agree and yes it's nice to think in a world of evil big pharma and the good little guy but I think the primary reason is old people and right wingers, the sort of people who defeat it in referendums and always vote. While you might find it a little difficult to find a large group of people who oppose marijuana legalization on an artist forum in the real world things are different. http://youtu.be/XbVhbQPblNY?t=3m3s that might be relavant
Personally I'm for legalising it, Don't see why not if your gunna leave alcohol and cigs legal.
edit: [tinfoil] Lamar Smith..the Rep that shot Down Barney Frank's legalization bill recived 48,000 from big Pharm, 30,3000 from Alchohol [\tinfoil]
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00001811&type=I&newmem=N
We can grow enough paper in a season instead of cutting down 200 year old forests that aren't easily replaced.
Quite a few varieties of plastic can be made from it, yea we can make plastic without fossil oil.
You can use the oil for bio fuel which has a higher yield and easier processing time than corn and other bio fuels, it also grows faster.
You can use it in building materials, everything from concrete to particle board.
On a medical level I view it like alcohol, legalize it, tax it and regulate it. Don't drive drunk, or high. There end of story. It's the 200 year old law makers with 3 marbles rolling around in their skull that are afraid of the campaign smear ads that are too scared to do anything about it. They're too busy trying to pass legislation that makes it OK for corporations to donate unlimited funds to THEIR attack ads. You can't vote em out... you just have to wait them out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes
Free read:
http://www.jackherer.com/thebook/
Anyway, I always feel that this "legalize Marijuana for medical use" actions to be a big bullshit as I bet 99% of supporters just want it to have some fun (which I don't have any problem with by the way..) but just don't use the "medical" uses as an argument for that. Cocaine also has medical uses...
Oxy is derived from opium, not coca.
Mark is right on the spot in my book though.
Also people should go watch The Union: The business of getting high.
http://www.theunionmovie.com/TheUnionWeb.html
Both of the movie and the podcast go through the research and misinformation fairly well.
Alcohol might be a drug, but that doesn't change the fact that it is legal and isn't destributed by alcohol lords in mexico and gangs who use guns and knives to protect their territory from competers.
Marijuana might be safe, but it's the whole way it gets destributed that fucks it up. As I said in my previous post: Everytime you buy marijuana or any kind of ilegal drugs you're most likely supporting the gang environment.
Both wrong in my case and having been to support group of recovering and those in treatment I've not heard such as well. Post proof or really just don't post about nothing you know about.
My thoughts exactly.
Although I'm over my illness now I haven't touched it since then and never really intend to. it really DID help a ton. Not only combating nausea by it caused me to eat when normally I wouldn't be able to not only keep the food down by never ever felt like eating in the first place.
Your post is bordering on retarded.
The reason weed is distributed as it is because its illegal, make it legal and you take it out of gang hands and those 'lords in mexico and gangs who use guns and knives to protect their territory from competers.'
Seriously use your head.
Right ok I dont know how to say this without incriminating myself but fuck it, it really isnt like you say unless you abuse it, but that can be almost ANY substance. Stop eating the crap people are feeding you.
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hey, if you read my first post, you would see I agree with you there.. I said it was only big reason why I think it should be legalized.
I can't speak for any other countries, but I've never heard about organized crime selling alcohol where its legal to buy and brew
Super Happy Cow, or point with oxycontin-heroine is pointless... it's not because they are from the same pharmacological group that they are all the same.
The authorization for medical use of any substance needs more then some "proved" benefits, and far better drugs have been failed by FDA because of some minor concerns (and I don't see anyone protesting on that)... Marijuana comes from an industry with zero quality control or regulamentation, there are no serious controlled trials, it's addictive and there are a lot of social concerns.
Legalize it for fun? I don't really care... for medical use? still think its bullshit!
If you haven't figured this out by now here it is: pots not dangerous. You've been lied to.
If pot is dangerous and needs to be illegal, then we should be making a shit ton of other things illegal as well. Cars should be illegal, 'cause damnit they kill more people every year than pot does.
Actually, all those pills you're getting from the doctor, for the most part should be illegal- they kill more people every year.
Alcohol- illegal.
Cigs- illegal.
Fast food- illegal.
Knives/Guns-illegal.
Animals- illegal.
Weather- illegal.
People- illegal.
Seems to be government shouldn't be in the business of legislating morality, 'cause that's the only string left concerning why pot is illegal; some moral qualm about its legitimacy in society. Give me a break.
Use drugs and medicine when you're sick to help you get healthier. And if you're not sick, don't do it.
Has always worked for me. And probably pretty much everyone else who's ever tried it, ever.
~ Argument has a flaw.
Aspirin - Taking 1 a day is proven to keep the blood slightly thinner, greatly reducing stroke and heart attack risks.
If you're at risk for those things, then I'd count that under the whole "to help you get healthier" thing. And aspirin isn't the only way to reduce those things by a long shot.
Truth is, pot and CS1.6 where the 2 major contributing factors to me failing college the first time round. I was young, immature and lazy. Pot only aided that laziness, so I spent 10 years bumming around in other meaningless jobs before I got off my arse and went back to college. This time pot free but this time I had CS source, but only a little.
I'd like to have the choice to buy pot if I wish. And I think it should be freely available. Alcohol is far worse after all. But I think the only real winners in making it legal will be lazy teenagers and chavs. And it will only make them more lazy.
It should definitely be legal for medication. If a substance can aid someone who is ill, then why not.
They've banned(restricted access to) Antimony, Mercury, Thallium and other poisons because they harm people. They were used for years, in treatments that were supposed to heal people but were actually harming them.
People dont always know what they are doing, they dont generally behave sensibly. I dont care what people do to harm themselves but smoking isnt a purely passive thing. The smoke can harm others and possibly even the environment. We dont even really understand what these drugs like marijuana do. We've already made the mistake so many times of using elements excessively that we dont fully understand.
I dont think they should make it illegal to try though. They should keep it illegal to grow manufacture and sell the drugs. They should use social engineering to deter people from taking them.
http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html
The argument on the site is that smoking is bad, thus it is illegal. So if I was it make space cakes surely then thats fine right?
urgh the sense of Hypocrisy is killing me.
Ha ha, that was great! Lekker, lekker, lekker
We have a coffee shop down the street. There are a couple of myths to dispel and a couple to confirm. Weed heads are not pinwheel eyed hippies, they are business men and women, they work for the council, they work for the government, maybe they don't work at all. People who smoke weed are all ages, all shapes and sizes, and er all colours. The coffee shop is busy in the weekend, but not as busy as the pub.
The government and the church are told by crime that weed must be banned. It's easy to grow (duh it a weed!), easy to supply but if it becomes legal the bottom will drop out of the market, simple as that. Added to this, contraband products gain a fascination bonus which also aid sales.
If in doubt learn from history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
I've never seen such an antagonistic pot advocate. And here I thought you all just got the munchies.
I wish the government would realize that making marijuana illegal is really no different then when they started prohibition on alcohol. It didn't work. I think I read somewhere that pot use among the Dutch, is down alot. After a high initial use, people have gotten bored with it, and found better uses for their money.
Neither were those other things I mentioned, they were used as medicines, for thousands of years, turns out oops, they were poisonous.
I agree its not illegal because of harm but because of economy. Stoned people dont work hard enough, and all the other money thats in it now but, sometimes people need to be protected from themselves or they will hang themselves and everyone around them(probably!).
I dont care if you smoke, whatever.
sure if you already got a lazy personality it will make it worse, but i haven't seen it actually make people lazy who normally arent.
This.
So many people like to blame their short comings on something other than themselves. Bad memory, it's the weed's fault. Anger issues? that's alcohol's fault.
I admit I can be lazy. I never blame weed for that. I would put more blame on muscular dystrophy always leaving me tired.
People hate to admit they have issues so they toss the blame onto drugs or anything that isn't them.
Also, I've noticed on the BBC shows about cannabis, all the idiots claiming it's addictive are smoking spliffs. Aka tobacco and cannabis together. Nevermind the fact that tobacco is a well known and quite addictive substance, it has to be the weed that's addictive.
I wasnt saying that it would effect productivity(or maybe I was) but those in power think that it will.
We dont know enough about the drugs effects because we dont know enough about the brain. I just dont think its wise to go using something willy nilly without full facts. There are lots of materials that are restricted for good reasons.
I think you may be confusing this issue with something else. I know your country is messed up with the massive prison population and the private prisons with the slave populations but thats a seperate issue. I dont think people should be put into prison for using them, just incentives and encouragements to dissuade people using them.