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Tell Congress to oppose S. 978, the new "Ten Strikes" bill




Here they go again: Big business's lobbyists are launching another attack on Internet freedom. Senators are considering a "Ten Strikes" bill to make it a felony to stream copyrighted content -- like music in the background of a Youtube video -- more than ten times.


As the writers at TechDirt point out, under this bill you could go to jail for posting video of your friends singing karaoke:


The entertainment industry is freaking out about sites that embed and stream infringing content, and want law enforcement to put people in jail over it, rather than filing civil lawsuits.... We already pointed to one possibility: that people embedding YouTube videos could face five years in jail. Now, others are pointing out that it could also put kids who lip sync to popular songs, and post the resulting videos on YouTube, in jail as well.

That's right: Ten strikes and you could get jail time.



Less than a month ago, the Hollywood industry magazine, Variety, reported, "Industry lobbyists pressed House members on Wednesday to pass legislation that would make illegal streaming of movies, TV shows and other types of content a felony...."
Only a few weeks later, the MPAA is getting its wish.



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So...I can download it? Well, seems like all the download training I had thanks to Canada's limited Bandwidth has finally payed off.

I always love how lobbyist groups are always reported so casually. What about telling us HOW they actually pressed House members to do this! Money ? Free porn ? Hannah Montana backstage tickets?

It makes no sense, so it's okay for them to post and distribute their music on youtube (similar sites) but not anyone else? So official music videos would have to be removed as well wouldn't It? Almost rendering youtube (similar sites) pointless for finding such music videos, & similar content as well as promotions. I don't see how this works or makes any sense.

In all honesty I hardly listen to older music or even newer music after about 10-20 plays, music Is not that big of a deal anymore this isn't the Napster days... old people.

Originally Posted by $!nz

It makes no sense, so it's okay for them to post and distribute their music on youtube (similar sites) but not anyone else? So official music videos would have to be removed as well wouldn't It? Almost rendering youtube (similar sites) pointless for finding such music videos, & similar content as well as promotions. I don't see how this works or makes any sense.

You're missing the point a bit here, it would be illegal, for someone who does not own the copyright. Bands/publisher posting official videos... They own the rights to the music, they are free to do whatever they want.

We're talking about turning everyone into criminals for having a little creative freedom and posting it on YouTube. That means every parody, every lampoon, every singalong, and any other use of copyrighted content would be a felony if streamed online. Remember the YouTube video of the baby dancing to Prince? They want to make it a crime to do things like that.

This is just getting to stupid proportions. This is not what the founders of the constitution intended when they granted congress the power to, "in order to promote the progress of the useful sciences and arts", create copyright and patent law. This is so beyond the point of reason, you can't see the light back to reason. This is wrong, just wrong.

Since when did infringement become a higher crime than assault and battery?

Since the music industry was given the permission to bitch, moan and cannibalize itself while blaming anyone with an internet connection.

Originally Posted by greevar

We're talking about turning everyone into criminals...

You're all aware this is happening with many facets of every day human life, right? And has been for many years? I.e. pot?

Originally Posted by Super Happy Cow

You're all aware this is happening with many facets of every day human life, right? And has been for many years? I.e. pot?

Yes and it's sick. Protests are pushed into the dark corners where nobody will see them by so-called "free speech zones", the TSA assumes we're all carrying bombs (including our children) so they have to irradiate, humiliate, and grope us (and our children) to maintain the illusion that they're protecting us from each other. Cops are making up bullshit charges to use on people filming their questionable actions in public or arresting people for dancing silently in the Jefferson memorial (Jefferson, a staunch supporter of freedom of expression would be appalled). 200 miles within the US national borders are "constitution free zones" where your rights supposedly don't exist because they have to stop the 'terrists and those illegal aliens that tuk ur jerbz! Liberties are being eroded for the sake of "security". Truthfully, you're better off with a criminal than a cop. At least when a mugger gets your wallet and/or mobile phone, they'll leave you alone in most cases. If you piss off a cop, he'll beat your ass and drag you to jail whether he had just cause or not. They don't like it when you shatter their illusion of unquestioned authority.

All of that is 100% true, even though some might perceive it as a fringe rant.

Our societal system is broken. Bottom line.

Honestly they need calm down. I know that it is a huge grey area. But banning music in youtube videos? 99% of the videos I watch on youtube are mountain bike movies with music over it.

Oh and did I mention this kid is FUCKED!

You Tube

Originally Posted by Super Happy Cow

All of that is 100% true, even though some might perceive it as a fringe rant.

Our societal system is broken. Bottom line.

Yeah, sorry. Civil rights violations kinda hit a nerve with me.

LOL! If you thought prisons were overcrowded now, just you wait.

I can see it now: Some crazed drug offender gets early paroled and then goes on a killing rampage on a crowded school bus. Then we find out the only reason he was paroled was to make space in prison for some kid who was unlucky enough to be caught watching some youtube videos.

The lawmakers and big industry in this country are so out of touch with reality it's not funny anymore

Originally Posted by Ben Apuna

The lawmakers and big industry in this country are so out of touch with reality it's not funny anymore

It was never funny, but I get your meaning.

I don't think I've ever been so angry at reading something on Polycount prior to this...

Granted it has no chance of passing (I hope), but still the fact that some idiot(s) taking industry bribes (campaign contributions heh) is planning to put this forward to a vote... all while the soldiers need to come home, the economy needs fixing, and the budget needs balancing.

Whoever it is that is wasting the countries time and money on this needs to be banned from politics and law for life!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...?bill=s112-978

Who are these people!? Ah here we go:

Klobuchar, Amy - (D - MN) Class I
302 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3244
http://klobuchar.senate.gov/emailamy.cfm

Coons, Christopher A. - (D - DE) Class II
127A RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5042
http://coons.senate.gov/contact/

Cornyn, John - (R - TX) Class II
517 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2934
http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=ContactForm

Originally Posted by greevar

Yeah, sorry. Civil rights violations kinda hit a nerve with me.

No need to apologize.

The irony of our failure after Osama specifically proclaimed he intended to bleed us of our wealth, along with the passage of the Patriot Act are perfect reasons to be furious, at the least.

Originally Posted by Ben Apuna

Granted it has no chance of passing (I hope)

Ahahahah. Does anyone pay attention to politics anymore?

"Klobuchar, Amy - (D - MN) Class I
302 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3244"

Man, one of my senators is in on this? This will not do!

while this law doesn't effect me at all it's pretty ridiculous (if I ever need music for something I make my own or license it).

I'm sure a bit of Jail time would be just the thing to teach my kids some discipline... sort them out good and proper for daring to express themselves in the world community in such a shamelessly illegal manner.

Hope Canada doesn't pop in on this, if they do, I swear, Khan will sound like a light cuss.

It doesn't have a chance at passing. Our jails are already overcrowded, and while some "big businesses" might feel they're losing money - google's making so much money off of this stuff it's ridiculous, if in a bit of a roundabout way. Even if it DID pass, there's no way they'd be able to effectively enforce it.

Originally Posted by Kevin Johnstone

I'm sure a bit of Jail time would be just the thing to teach my kids some discipline... sort them out good and proper for daring to express themselves in the world community in such a shamelessly illegal manner.

Jail is a walk in the park these days. You get TV in your cells, game consoles, books, free college....

Free sex. Wanted, or otherwise.

Originally Posted by RexM

Jail is a walk in the park these days. You get TV in your cells, game consoles, books, free college....

Clearly someone needs to watch Hard Time on Nat Geo.




What are you in Jail for? Murder? Armed Robbery? Abuse? Narcotics?...No I made a Dragon Ball Z music video with a Hanna Montana song 10 times!

Originally Posted by Talbot

Honestly they need calm down. I know that it is a huge grey area. But banning music in youtube videos? 99% of the videos I watch on youtube are mountain bike movies with music over it.

Oh and did I mention this kid is FUCKED!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_n3hg-Gbg

I was appalled by this whole thread up until I realized that he would be put in jail...
Now I see the upside.