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on 02-10-2011 07:16 PM
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cooool, I really like the badger! Is there a reason for all the upside-down crosses?
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, spline,
149 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2010,
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i thought you already had one of these going :P nice work regardless, im really digging that badger and the recent toon shaded fellow
i want your fold sculpting skillz
peaz?
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haha, badger and cel shaded nail bat man are awsome...
hope you get all your stuff together man, should be an awsome folio :3
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, polycounter,
801 Posts,
Join Date Jul 2008,
Location Montreal, Candadadada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murph
cooool, I really like the badger! Is there a reason for all the upside-down crosses?
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yea whats up with that some religious nut will hate you
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, card carrying polycounter,
2,366 Posts,
Join Date Dec 2009,
Location Johnson City,TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hboybowen
yea whats up with that some religious nut will hate you
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Honestly, there's very little you can do to not piss off a religious nut =)
On the crosses:
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1. “what’s with the inverted crosses?”
It has nothing to do with satanism, I am not a satanist. I wanted a little token to put on my work in progress works. So I chose the inverted cross. As to why I chose it, that’s for me to know and you guys to ponder about
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Love the badger Daphz, great design=)
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, spline,
105 Posts,
Join Date Apr 2010,
Location The Netherlands
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I personally have no problem with the crosses, but it's probably not good that instead of thinking: "oh cool stuff!", my first thought was: "........crosses.....?" and THEN: "oh cool stuff!"
Maybe it's just me, though. /shrug.
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, spline,
149 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2010,
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Okay everyone I think I figured it out, after seeing some of his other posts here, and noticing the repetition on other characters, as well as not answering the indelible question of why, I believe it is a type of "brand recognition"
I think he wants to become known as "that guy who always uses upsidedown crosses" so that he'll be instantly recognizable across the board without having to physically place his name on the images in type.
Let me know if i'm off here Daphz, love your stuff by the way 
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, triangle,
438 Posts,
Join Date Nov 2010,
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Love the badger <3
The dude with the bat is pretty neat too.
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, triangle,
361 Posts,
Join Date Dec 2010,
Location London
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well I hope you dont miss jobs doing that buddy. Gives off a bad message regardless of your intent.
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, card carrying polycounter,
2,366 Posts,
Join Date Dec 2009,
Location Johnson City,TN
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im sorry but if anyone believes that the upside down cross directly means satanism, then you need to do some research. it is the Cross of St. Peter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter
"In Roman Catholicism the Petrine Cross is not seen as Satanic in any way. However, an inverted crucifix (a Latin cross with an artistic depiction of the crucified body of Christ upon it) is seen as immensely disrespectful, and could be used to represent Satanic forces.[citation needed] The distinction between a Cross of Peter and upturned Crucifix is sometimes obscured, leading to confusion about the acceptability of each symbol. This was seen when controversy arose over the aforementioned Papal visit to Israel; pictures of the Pope sitting before a Petrine Cross were widely circulated on the Internet in an attempt to prove that the Catholic Church is associated with Satanism and the Antichrist.[2][3]"
basically it boils down to the idea that Simon Peter felt unworthy of being crucified upright
if anyone ACTUALLY has a problem with this, either on this board or in the industry, they are obviously misinterpreting this and i would recommend they look into things a little more before just assuming what they have heard by others. if daphz was putting a little upside down body crucified on that cross, then he might be setting himself up for some ridicule, but the way he has it now he's not representing anything other than the crucifixion of Saint Peter.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Yevin
im sorry but if anyone believes that the upside down cross directly means satanism, then you need to do some research. it is the Cross of St. Peter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter
"In Roman Catholicism the Petrine Cross is not seen as Satanic in any way. However, an inverted crucifix (a Latin cross with an artistic depiction of the crucified body of Christ upon it) is seen as immensely disrespectful, and could be used to represent Satanic forces.[citation needed] The distinction between a Cross of Peter and upturned Crucifix is sometimes obscured, leading to confusion about the acceptability of each symbol. This was seen when controversy arose over the aforementioned Papal visit to Israel; pictures of the Pope sitting before a Petrine Cross were widely circulated on the Internet in an attempt to prove that the Catholic Church is associated with Satanism and the Antichrist.[2][3]"
basically it boils down to the idea that Simon Peter felt unworthy of being crucified upright
if anyone ACTUALLY has a problem with this, either on this board or in the industry, they are obviously misinterpreting this and i would recommend they look into things a little more before just assuming what they have heard by others. if daphz was putting a little upside down body crucified on that cross, then he might be setting himself up for some ridicule, but the way he has it now he's not representing anything other than the crucifixion of Saint Peter.
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Glad I didn't have to post this.
Love the cel-shaded character!
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, line,
70 Posts,
Join Date May 2009,
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I like the badger, his hands and claws could use some work though, they don't look functional really, more like an awkward glove.
As far as the upside down cross, it doesn't really matter what it's origins are if 90% of the people initially think "satanism" or "anti-religion"
Thats like using the non skewed swastika and saying its the Hindu peace sign... of course Satanists are probably responsible for a few million less murders so it's an extreme example but those are the best kind of examples :P
Brand recognition is tricky business, it can do really good things when used correctly. For example, I will never forget Ben's website (poopinmymouth.com)
Great stuff keep posting dude!
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, spline,
105 Posts,
Join Date Nov 2009,
Location LA CA
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woah I did not expect so many comments. Seems like the cross thing is kind of controversial I guess. But Dduckworth and NathanA are pretty much right about the brand thing. and again, I'm not going to keep it on final portfolio presentation. About this thing preventing me from getting a job, I can definitely see that sort of thing happening, so I will be careful. But for now I'm going to keep using esoteric/spiritual symbols, because I like them. If you guys want to discuss more, PM me or hit me up on skype or something.
Thank for the compliments on my work though
@NathanA - I will deff fix them badger hands.
here's todays speedy, inspired by a plague doctor.
i'm gonna work more on that cell shaded dude now.
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Ha, I was going to comment yesterday that the crosses are very easy way to identify your work. I see them and right away know who did it. As far as it preventing any jobs, that might be a good thing, just think of it as an inherent filtering system for bosses you wouldn't get along with. Nice sculpts btw, I too hope to see that badger finished up.
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, polycounter,
855 Posts,
Join Date Sep 2009,
Location Seattle
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the self portrait and the badger is coming out fkn awesome!
Upside down cross is an awesome brand, HAIL SATAN!.....jk lol
fuck! totally forgot im on my GF computer hahah this is STRIKER BTW
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, triangle,
378 Posts,
Join Date Nov 2009,
Location Santa Monica, CA
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fckin great work daphz, love the upside down crosses.
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, card carrying polycounter,
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Location seattle
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pretty rad dude! you`ve always flexed out a certain flavor in your work. I really dig the illustration stuff too-
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, card carrying polycounter,
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I like the plague doctor. Are you planning on taking it further? Could be cool merging the new tech with the old plague doctor style. Maybe some sort of high tech plague doctor hat.
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, spline,
105 Posts,
Join Date Nov 2009,
Location LA CA
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I love the cel shaded dude and the skeleton pharoah. Don't ditch your callsign, either.
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, polycounter,
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Location Mississippi
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Love the plague doctor, they are one of my main fascinations, I even got a mask of one just the other day!
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, triangle,
438 Posts,
Join Date Nov 2010,
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Very cool stuff. Quite sceptical to the whole cross thing as it at first struck me as a bit mediocre though at the same time it's quite a clever way to brand yourself. Everyone will know who the creator is. This is something everyone should think about if they want to stand out.
I guess the crosses simply will get tiresome in the long run. Perhaps they could be implemented outside the focal point?
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, polycounter,
1,123 Posts,
Join Date Dec 2007,
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yes love the crosses, keep em inverted! its great. that part attracted me to your art more.
here is one for yourself, so you can live as your art does.
- bellaclava inverted cross with jewely blood drops - a must have!
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, polygon,
616 Posts,
Join Date Aug 2008,
Location Vancouver, BC
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Personally I love all your work and love that you put the crosses on your WIPS. your color palette alone makes your work very recognizable, and the cross seals the deal of awesomeness. Love it!
Last edited by ErichWK; 02-12-2011 at 02:38 AM..
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, dedicated polycounter,
1,734 Posts,
Join Date Jun 2009,
Location San Diego, CA
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it seems that this crosses thing is a real barrier between your work and some viewers.
is it worth to stay them there and not find some different symbol, that doesnt have such religious context behind?
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, veteran polycounter,
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