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some metal and texture tests


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I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

cigars plx!

the spy smokes, so I doubt its a big deal..

plus he's already got smokes in his soldirs stash.

Originally Posted by Fragus

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

Sniper and Soldier are implied smokers :O
Sniper have an ash tray in his Van, and Soldier have a pack of cigarettes attached to his Stash.

If people get offended by the Soldier smoking, they should just go play Hello Kitty instead.

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

Originally Posted by Fragus

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

Ummm, when you fire a rocket at someone body parts go left and sometimes to the right....which one's more offensive?

Good stuff graff, cant wait to see the models.

Originally Posted by fearian

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

THIS! Having to interact and smoke isn't a very good idea

Originally Posted by fearian

Yeah, but there's a difference between having cigarette's in the world and having the player smoke them for benefits.

Mhmm, several countries do not allow usable drugs to give benefits in video games. For example: Fallout3 was briefly banned in Australia due to morphine.

It's nice concept art though!

nice presentation and concepts. keep churning those ideas out.!

I think you guys are getting too hung up on the fact that it's cigarettes. It isn't necessarily going to be used for benefits, and maybe that wasn't even graff's intentions. These could just be a misc. item.

since when was getting punched a benefit???


seriously though, nowhere in that image does it say the smokes are actually used for anything so why don't you let graff make the damn thing before you go crying to the somebody-might-get-offended-police. jeeze.

I thought the cigarettes were a misc item.

From the picture, which has tape over the top and tag line:"packs a punch" I immediatly imagined that a fist on a spring would fire out, a jack-in-the-box kind of thing. But that does seem a little far fetched. It would be hilarious though.

yall bring up good points, but Its just an idea i liked. if it dont win cuz its to Controversial wont hurt my feeling either way.ill prob come up with some alternative if I get these done and have more time

much thanks - the input is always appreciated

Great ideas and designs, as for the cigarettes about the ethics, it depends on what it does...

Yeah, interacting with them would be kinda controversial. Nice concepts though, cant wait to see them modeled out.

Maybe the cigarettes could have some kind of buff effect, but they give the Soldier lung cancer so he dies after thirty seconds. That would make the censors happy.

And if it doesn't, say that they are, uh, magical wondersticks or something instead of smokes. Fallout 3 got through the ratings in Australia simply by renaming Morphine.

....interacting with smokes is controversal and interacting with PISS that you THROW ON YOUR ENNEMIES isnt? (Jarate anyone?)

Did everyone forget that the spy ALWAYS smokes?

Jarate was never ACTUALLY called piss by valve, there were suggestive terms like the jar filling when he drinks coffee in meet the sniper and that "It increased size of my bladder bla bla bla" but never was it called urine in a jar. Still throwing it to damage opponents is no where as bad as smoking to gain bonus attributes.

lookin good man. I'll use em

Nice update!

So what's your plan for what they'll do? It's a nice looking knife, a decent looking pack of smokes, and a nice (if somewhat overly stinger-modern looking, though with the direct hit I suppose I can't complain) rocket launcher, but I'm kind of interested to see how it works game-mechanic wise.

Originally Posted by Fragus

I don't think cigarettes is a good idea overall, people can be offended (yeah, now-days people can be offended by anything)

The spy already chain smokes, uses a pack of smokes as his costume thing, and flicks the cigarettes. It totally fits with the time period and theme, especially with the World War 2 American soldier.

Besides if folks can be offended by that in a video game where you light someone on fire, douse them out with a jar of piss, and then have a black guy kill them with a broken bottle, their priorities for what's offensive need to be adjusted.

the rocket launcher isn't all that interesting to look at to be honest. For the best definition i can give, "it's just a rocket launcher." Nothing really stands out about it.