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created Western Saloon
on 03-23-2010 10:44 AM
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, vertex,
27 Posts,
Join Date Apr 2009,
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everything is lookin pretty good to me, my one big crit would be that every thing is too wooden, and brown. it needs a little color somewhere to mix it up anything to break down how brown it is. the modeling looks good to me as do the textures, just that little color issue. also totally love the wagon wheel chandeliers. gl with updates lookin good so far! lights are nice like the colors you chose for them!
-Woog
"The blacksmith and the artist reflect it in thier art. Forge their creativity closer to the heart YEAH! Its closer to the heart!"
Vageta whats your scouter read about this model?
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!
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, dedicated polycounter,
1,544 Posts,
Join Date Sep 2008,
Location Brighton, UK
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Nice for me, but on floor you can take more dirt.
Walls look like realy old, so why floor is new? 
Rest is cool 
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, null,
18 Posts,
Join Date Mar 2010,
Location Poland
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Superb. I like it a lot. What's the polycount for this saloon?
Although a saloon is pretty much wood, as woogity said, it might be an idea to introduce a couple of other textures/colours for a bit of balance/contrast.
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, triangle,
451 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2009,
Location Ingletown innit.
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The wood texture of your materials is overpowering the shapes they are applied to. The exclusion to this is the floor. While it has a pretty obvious tile, the shapes of the floorboards are not dominated by the grain of the wood.
It's also really scratched up in a uniform fashion (and so high on the wall). You used decals for stains, you could take advantage of them here for more appropriate scuff marks.
The tables could use more sides for roundness since you can get so close to them.
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, veteran polycounter,
3,311 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2004,
Location Denver, CO
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It looks pretty nice, but I would have to agree with the comments about the wood.
If you were to slightly desaturate and darken the wood a tiny bit, you could then allow your lights to add the color to your wood. Right now all of the wood seems a little vibrant...
Looking good though! 
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, vertex,
39 Posts,
Join Date Jan 2009,
Location Kansas City, MO
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Am I the only one who thinks that the scale of everything is kinda awkward? the chair size to the table size doesn't seem right. Everything seems close in scale to how it would be but a little off to me. I have a hard time imagining a person walking around the environment. You should import a placeholder character just so you can see the relative proportions of things more clearly.
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, spline,
109 Posts,
Join Date Dec 2006,
Location San Francisco, CA
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Woogity, Glad you like the lighting colors, thanks! I see what you're saying about too much brown. I'm thinking about changing the wall behind the bar to brick and bumping up the saturation on the bottles. That'll add some more blues and greens hopefully break it up.
Pirat, I completely agree with you. I'm going to create a tiling scratches and tiling dirt texture. I'll tile them over the floor at a different rates, fixing the tiling and detailing issues for the floor in one go.
rumblesushi, I dont have access to my pc right now so I can't give you the exact tri count for the scene. It's pretty high though. I gave myself a limit of 3000 per asset so that will give you some idea.
cholden, I'll see if maybe i can't find the old textures and tone the grain down a bit. I'll be throwing a few grunge textures over the floor. Hopefully that'll fix the tile issues. The scene has a pretty high tri count. I'm alittle ashamed that the table is so low compared to everything else. I'll fix that right away
Dfinlay, I see what you're saying about it being too vibrant. I'll run a desaturate through the wood materials. That should calm the scene down abit.
Laughing bun, I think you're right about the scale. Like I said this is a old scene that I just recently re-lit. I haven't touched the meshes in ages, I will definitely go back and fix the scale issues.
I'll start fixing this up and see if I can get an update up soon.
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, vertex,
27 Posts,
Join Date Apr 2009,
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Echoing what others have said. You also are missing the all-important nude painting behind the bar.

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, spline,
118 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2004,
Location San Diego, CA
, vertex,
27 Posts,
Join Date Apr 2009,
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Looks pretty good. The only main issue I have is with the wanted posters. They're much too bright, too noticeably copy and pasted, seem to be floating and just all around too many of them. I can't even see how they're kept in place on the brick walls. They'd likely just have a bulletin board location for all that info.
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, line,
70 Posts,
Join Date May 2009,
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You have a dirty decal on the 3rd, 4th and 5th pics from the top that are on the wall as much as the wooden pillar and to me are really flattening the image. They match up so evenly that it almost looks like you threw it on as an overlay in Photoshop post render.
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, triangle,
447 Posts,
Join Date Apr 2009,
Location Kirkland, WA
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A brick wall in an old west saloon? If you wanted to add something out of place that was also higher contrast than the rest of the materials thus noising out all the silhouettes of all props composed in front of it, then success!
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, veteran polycounter,
3,311 Posts,
Join Date Oct 2004,
Location Denver, CO
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