Hopefully we'll see as little of Theon as possible. Also it appears they're replacing Catelyn's parts talking about Robb with Robb's perspective, which would explain Jenye.

Originally Posted by Brendan

Hopefully we'll see as little of Theon as possible. Also it appears they're replacing Catelyn's parts talking about Robb with Robb's perspective, which would explain Jenye.

not sure if i like that... one of the reasons for the second and third books being so emotional (you know... THAT event) is because of Cat's perspective. without that i don't think the event would have been near as harrowing as it was.

i wouldn't mind having Robb's perspective in addition, but i don't see it as a suitable replacement. at the end of the day, he had a one night stand and did the honourable thing to resolve it, not really much to add.

without that i don't think the event would have been near as harrowing as it was.

I'm not sure I agree. I think the trouble is that these emotions were mainly internal and never really spoken about. Some things you have to change for a movie adaptation without getting really weird and doing a voice over.

Ok, I'm going to jump in here for a quick sec. Gir, this is in no way an attack against you, or a carry over from the walking dead thread. And so far, this hasnt been needed because you guys aren't talking details, but I thought I should throw it in for the sake of the threads future.

Please use SPOILER TAGS when talking about the BOOKS. The books are very close to the show, so saying something from the book can ruin whole episodes before they even air.

Spoiler tags are used by putting [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] around text (minus the spaces in it).

Thanks.

i'm being deliberately careful about my wording in these posts, so as not to spoil things.

Originally Posted by slipsius

Please use SPOILER TAGS when talking about the BOOKS. The books are very close to the show, so saying something from the book can ruin whole episodes before they even air.

The hot blonde gets her tits out. A lot.

Season 2 has arrived!

http://youtu.be/25KABvPbq-U

Originally Posted by almighty_gir

not sure if i like that... one of the reasons for the second and third books being so emotional (you know... THAT event) is because of Cat's perspective. without that i don't think the event would have been near as harrowing as it was.

i wouldn't mind having Robb's perspective in addition, but i don't see it as a suitable replacement. at the end of the day, he had a one night stand and did the honourable thing to resolve it, not really much to add.

There's only half a scene that really needs that, and I think if Cat knows, they're bringing that bit well into season 2. In fact, the only significant part is the whole "well mother, as we're talking about things that we really shouldn't have done..." line when he gets back. And as long as they do the reveal well, then it's fine.

Also I checked the wiki, and 'Blackwater' is episode 9 out of 10. I can't think of anything to fill the last episode though. The epilogue is pretty short, no way that's going to be an episode.

chances are the finale will just be the...

MASSIVE SPOILER FOLLOWING

consolidation of power by the Lannisters, it will likely show all of the things only implied in the book, like Tywin taking power and doing certain things to reverse Tyrions decisions etc. the episode will probably end with Tyrions new face being revealed

I can see that happening in the space of 10 minutes at absolute most. There's a few words and knighting the sellsword.

There's a good chance, with the TV rushing through certain characters, that Ep10 will have Rob and Cat and all the gang heading off for a wedding, like the end of S1 with the Nightswatch going out for the ranging. Maybe it'll have Davos being found without his fingers and he'll be all "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

I wonder if we will see that scene with Theon trying to seduce a woman who turns out being his sister, Asha and who completely humiliates him afterwards. That whole chapter was hilarious. On a side note, I hear that Reeds won't appear in this season. Which seems like a strange decision. They are essantial to Bran's story.

The 'Greenlit by HBO bit can probably be removed at this stage...

Good opener! big fucking YESSSSS moment when the dire wolf walks up to jamie lannister.

just saw it, we're a day behind over here.

have to say i'm a little disappointed. i mean, it was a decent episode, but there was a lot that was unexplained. who davos is, why he's so important, the old maesters "sacrifice" etc. the burning of the statues doesn't happen until much later in the book...

i dunno, i guess there were a few parts of this episode that felt pretty disjointed.

Originally Posted by almighty_gir

just saw it, we're a day behind over here.

have to say i'm a little disappointed. i mean, it was a decent episode, but there was a lot that was unexplained. who davos is, why he's so important, the old maesters "sacrifice" etc. the burning of the statues doesn't happen until much later in the book...

i dunno, i guess there were a few parts of this episode that felt pretty disjointed.

I agree, and nothing really happened. It was just full of introductions and re-introductions. Not to mention a superfluous titty scene that seems to have been added to meet HBO's boob quota.

Still, it might have been necessary (the re-intros). I think a lot of people who only watch the show have trouble following who is who.

good episode, but I agree. I feel like if I hadn't read the book, I would have been really confused.

I liked a lot. I agree that there is a lot of characters introduced and they don't tell you who they are or why are they there but I feel like Season 1 was like that. Lots of characters introduced and as the series goes along they feed you all the details.

That would be the only disadvantage so far for the show vs the books. The lack of extra background info.

I've read the books and I still wasn't sure what was going on at all times. Maybe that was just because I was trying to recall exactly what the scene was and predict what would happen.

Later on I was trying to think of it as if I didn't read the books and damn. No explanations of anything regarding Melisandre and all (I don't think they even mentioned her name). That was something I definitely got out of reading the books, it gave a ton more context to the first season and realizing who characters were and what significance they had despite having short roles in the show. I completely spaced on everything to do with Renly when watching the first season. When I read the books I thought he was a character they cut from the show.

It's nice to watch it again to refresh my memories of the books. They do such an awesome job of adapting them. I've been disappointed by a lot of adaptions in the past (Dune) but it seems like they really nail everything with this series. love it.

FYI The second episode of season 2 was leaked online yesterday if you want to watch it early.

I couldn't resist, and it was indeed good.

yeah i heard, resisted because then i would have to wait two weeks for the next one, hopefully you don't get game of thrones withdrawl!

same thing, will wait for the weekend. One week between episodes it's the max for me.

have to say, after watching episodes 2 + 3, i'm not sure i'm entirely happy with the amount of shortcuts and liberties being taken.

and why the fuck did they rename Asha?

Originally Posted by almighty_gir

have to say, after watching episodes 2 + 3, i'm not sure i'm entirely happy with the amount of shortcuts and liberties being taken.

and why the fuck did they rename Asha?

They thought that her name would be confused with Osha (the wildling with bran). Since a certain pair of other characters for Bran to hang around with haven't made their appearance yet (the reeds), I begin to wonder if Osha will replace the both of them in the show as his guide.

they can't do that though, can they? doesn't Osha take Rickon to keep him safe?