perspective tool to help with painting
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I'm finally just forcing myself to learn how to paint. I hate it.
it's the perspective. if i want to create a cylinder in 3 point perspective, it takes me for ever to draw out a whole bunch of perspective lines, get my arcs, blah blah blah.
what i need is a 2d paint program that has the ability to place primitive objects in 3d, and move them around to be used as guides, so that i can just draw and paint over them.
does such a thing exist, or am i going to make this thing and get filthy rich?
and no, i dont want to compose a scene in 3d and do a little print screen action. I want something more intuitive..
it's the perspective. if i want to create a cylinder in 3 point perspective, it takes me for ever to draw out a whole bunch of perspective lines, get my arcs, blah blah blah.
what i need is a 2d paint program that has the ability to place primitive objects in 3d, and move them around to be used as guides, so that i can just draw and paint over them.
does such a thing exist, or am i going to make this thing and get filthy rich?
and no, i dont want to compose a scene in 3d and do a little print screen action. I want something more intuitive..
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this dvd helped me with that.
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/323/Basic-Perspective-Form-Drawing
If you're going to use a shortcut, at least take it to the logical extreme!
Also if you look at the best landscape speedpainters (Vyle, M@ and others), their technique relies alot on perpective brushes falling in place just right, because (I think) tablet work is so limiting in terms of arm and wrist range, you really need something to compensate.
For instance if you have to draw ellipses and work digitally, instead of trying to draw the loops like Robertson does on paper, you will be much more efficient if you simply use a round brush with adjustement to it's roundness slider in PS. Then use the pen direction as a way to define the orientation. Kindof like a stencil really. Robertson's manual handcrafted stuff is extremely valuable to know, and is a requirement in my opinion, but in terms of execution it does not apply straight to digital paint I think.
Then for the overall perspective, use grids, don't start from scratch all the time.
For great, simple digital painting demos I would recommend Whit Brachna's videos. Will get you up and running in no time, as he really stresses the importance of contrast and composition (painting) as opposed to carefully drawn linework (drawthrough stuff ala Robertson) which i think works much better when to comes to digital art on tablets.
As a person who really loves linework I totally see what you feel. Unlearning it is pretty tough but yeah to paint digitlally you really have to switch to another mode. On the plus side it can be extremely rewarding and fast to pick up.
Good luck!
You can view some videos on the Area web site.
Divi, MightyPea - yeah alright, I'll give sketchup a look-see. it had crossed my mind actually.. I'll do that right now.
MoP - yeah, i've been doing that. It's better than nothing, really... but after a while of doing that, I start thinking that It wouldn't be a better idea to just keep going and rough things out in 3d. the thing is, what i'm looking for is a way of putting out ideas in a somewhat vauge fashion as quickly as humanly possible. I'm SOO impatient. come to think of it, maybe i'll make another thread asking about super fast workflows in general.
Pior- that's fantastic, that helps a lot. yeah, come to think of it, you're right. maybe from now on I'll do a small thumbnail on paper to get some linework, and then bring it into photoshop to do some painting if i want. I still haven't watched much of Robertson's stuff.. some of it, though. Truth be told, until recently i haven't had a reason to paint.. or, now that i think of it, to do much art at all. Maybe i'll go back and watch... and thanks for the tip on Brachna..
SyncViewS - fantastic, thanks a lot. i'll check that out now as well.
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well, thanks. man, it's amazing how these experienced guys seem as if they can often just get their values perfect on the first stroke.
@ Prior. While the tablet is limiting if you compare it to a pencil I think a larger makes it almost as easy.
http://www.da-gfx.com/
It's got some pretty neat features, chief among which include 3-point perspective snapping.
Also this should help whenever released :
http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~shbae/ilovesketch.htm
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http://rhondaforever.com/
I don't know how much would it be useful for a perspective tool , thought