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created 10 Year Old Kid Wont Pledge to the US
on 11-24-2009 12:52 AM
I just saw this kid on the Colbert Report... goddamn awesome! I love that a 10 year old kid can figure this out, but most American's are oblivious. :P
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The cool kids fake it anyway. ;)
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What a nerdy kid. lol He wants to be a lawyer. Great...
Glad he can figure it out though for himself what adults can't figure out.
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50 bucks says his parents pretty much put him up to it. I doubt he "figured this out himself".
Maybe Arkansas is just behind the times but I was never required to say the pledge of allegiance in elementary school and that was like 15 years ago.
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Well this has all the makings of a 50 page thread, we just need someone to make a horribly incensitive comment about homosexuals, the united states, or laywers. No i take that back, f*ck lawyers.
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gah everyone knows that fag refers to people who ride harleys...
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i want that kid's accent! southern lawyer mixed with british... shit's awesome.
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Yeah, this sounds like parents are behind this... stand up and obey your teachers. Don't say it if you don't want not saying it isn't going to change anything in your school. He told the teacher with some malice in his voice... "With all due respect, you can go jump off a bridge." The teacher should of paddled his ass. and they want an apology from the school!! 
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Damn, that kids way smarter than most people I know, I doubt he's been coached.
He's just a bright, somewhat creepy kid. :P
Good on him for having an opinion at that age, I was just trying to touch boob.
Sadly I do think he'll be sitting down for a while though.
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well unless someone slips up like baloon boy did, we'll never know if he was put up to it. i rember the day of baloon boy i told my girlfriend i thought the whole thing was a scam but she would not believe that someone would use their children in that way, then the next day it all came out because of some slip ups.
people will in one second use their kids for 5 minutes of fame. but again you can never really know.
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hahah awsome, never understood pledging anyway to a country anyway.
i think its fucking sad that the kid got teased by his peers for being gay after, kids are like a magnifing glass of society in general as they dont have a cap on whats socially correct to say
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That kid is way smart. He may have been influenced by his parents social, political and moral standards (as all kids are), but I don't think he's been coached.
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Must be a mighty slow news day.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroZombie
That kid is way smart. He may have been influenced by his parents social, political and moral standards (as all kids are), but I don't think he's been coached.
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Sounds like his parents have gay friends.
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This is asinine. Does this child realize what the pledge of allegiance represents? For starters, no one is actually going to force him to say it. The pledge of allegiance is an awknoledgement of a person's citizenship to the United States. Refusing to get off your ass and say it in order to make a political statement is useless. If he wanted to make a genuine statement, he would attempt to get his citizenship revoked.
Of course, if he did that, he would no longer be allowed to attend public school. And at that point he won't have to worry about the peer pressure of reciting the pledge of allegiance.
You could use the exact same logic to attempt to further any political agenda or minority ideology. This is the laziest type of protest, and an obvious bid for attention. What a waste of time.
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facepalm @ 2:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Kain
This is asinine. Does this child realize what the pledge of allegiance represents? For starters, no one is actually going to force him to say it. The pledge of allegiance is an awknoledgement of a person's citizenship to the United States. Refusing to get off your ass and say it in order to make a political statement is useless. If he wanted to make a genuine statement, he would attempt to get his citizenship revoked.
Of course, if he did that, he would no longer be allowed to attend public school. And at that point he won't have to worry about the peer pressure of reciting the pledge of allegiance.
You could use the exact same logic to attempt to further any political agenda or minority ideology. This is the laziest type of protest, and an obvious bid for attention. What a waste of time.
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First off, he's 10,
2nd of all he did stand out of respect, but he didn't say it or place his hand over his heart.
3rd You did have to say it legally until the supreme court decided during WWII that it was unconstitutional to require it.
If he really wanted to make a difference he'd vote, oh wait he's 10. The most he can do is rally voters, and try to get his message out there (which he is doing, getting on cnn and what not).
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I think a lot of adults forget how smart kids are, in fact I think kids are a lot smarter before they get to highschool and figure out acting stupid makes them cool. With internet and tv to his access theres plenty of time for him to form this opinion on his own. Most kids are too afraid to stand up to teachers and just do things without thinking about why they are doing them, and they keep doing that throughout their whole lives. Good for him for actually thinking about it and doing what he wanted, even if it might not end up changing anything. He got on cnn at least.
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Originally Posted by ZacD
If he really wanted to make a difference he'd vote, oh wait he's 10. The most he can do is rally voters, and try to get his message out there (which he is doing, getting on cnn and what not).
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Getting on television is not a laudable aspiration. I've seen some of the people that they show on television these days. No thank you.
And what is his message again? That not everyone gets "liberty and justice?" How does he come to this conclusion? Which minority in particular isn't granted basic civil liberties, or is denied justice? Who isn't being allowed to purchase property, get a fair trial by a jury of their peers, vote in general elections, etc...?
If an Arkansas youth wants to refuse to recite something, that is his right. Perhaps it wasn't his right back before WWII, but he hadn't even been born then. (rendering that bit of trivia moot in the current circumstances) No one is really denying him this right. And I don't really see any other basic rights being violated or ignored.
He would have a more defensible argument saying that he objects to the use of the word "indivisable," since it's use implies that state's don't have the right to secede.
Also, you can't say that children are more intelligent than we give them credit for, and then turn around and excuse this boy's lapse in logic because he's young. It's either one or the other.
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ok everyone. Re-read richard kain's posts, but imagine that it's all satire, and suddenly, it becomes good.
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what's a gaywad?
Honestly, the kid is doing something I would have never thought to do until much later in childhood. To me, pledge of allegiance was empty and meaningless. I think back now, and wonder why it's such a big deal to have children recite the pledge on a daily basis, before they're taught the actual meaning of a pledge. It's not fully understood to their minds. I do remember in later grades, I simply didn't say the "under God" part.
And overall the kid is right. The US is a clusterfuck of issues, so much that even children can begin to see it behind the empty words.
People go day to day without fully analyzing the meanings of the words they say.
And kids are fucking harsh to anyone who is against the norm. Great job parents.
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Smells like balloon boy to me. But he does have a valid point, as long as people continue to view marriage as strictly man & woman & vote down the needed changes for gay marriage, this won't be equal.
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The daily show bit with Mick Foley was awesome.
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