Others have made many a post drunk, and this is about as close as I come. I have a fever of 102 and I came home early from work and have been trying to sleep it off.

I'm tired of being surrounded by "bohemian/pseudo-intellectuals" that think they can rag on what I like because they determine it's too "mainstream". I accuse them back of altering their own likes and dislikes based on the opposite of what's hip and hot at the moment. They won't *let* themselves enjoy something if it has enjoyed commercial success. The more success, the more they hate it. The more obscure and original, despite any merrit it may or may not contain, the more they convince themselves they like it. It's pretty obvious if you just look for it. They enjoy reveling in their "fringe" outlook, they are the "rebels" of society, and they are obviously cool because they like what only a select few like, that the public at large could *never* understand the way they can. Just like what you like, and make no appologies. I like Kelly Clarkson, I like Linkin Park, I like the two new Star Wars movies, just as much, if not more than the original three. I like Sushi, I like the brand Quicksilver (a division of Levi's), and I like big titted game characters with stilhetto heels, when they are done right. I like the big space boot sci fi space marine character, and I like the egyption theme a lot of games like to include for cool factor. I liked Battlefield Earth. I enjoyed Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

Woa dont drag me into this! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I sometimes laugh at friends.

And I meant the TV show.

Get well soon!

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media preferences are ultimately subjective, who knew!

don't let le poseurs get you down poopeh. they hurt themselves by not allowing themselves enjoy some things that they might otherwise embrace.


(the egyptian themed stuff does need to go, though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

Fear of the lowest common denominator has driven many a victim of low self-esteem into a beret and a snooty attitude (pseudo-intellectuals). Personally, I have nothing against the mainstream, for without it, there would be nothing to be different FROM!

I listen to Christina Aguilera, Green Day, Jet, Beyonce and Madonna on a regular basis. But only because I have a large collection of mashup MP3s. Madonna sounds great with the Sex Pistols, really!

Ben, take Tylenol and Motrin on a 3 hour rotation so your brain doesn't bake. We need that brain!

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I kinda like both Linkin Park and Evanesence.

I also enjoy the new Stereophonics single.

And giant robots and ninjas are cool.

oh poop, i don't like Peter M.s games because i have actualy purchased and PLAYED THEM. unlike some people i don't think peter M shits gold because he gits in a million magazine interviews.. i don't care how popular he was. fable was a complete disapointment.. i can say that cause i played through most of the game and spent my hardly earned money on it (yes hardly) you havent even played the damn thing and you get all pissy when i talk bad about the thing.

my coment had nothign to do do with the mans fame and popularity, it had to do with dull games

once i stopped caring what other people thought of what i like, i started to enjoy the things a lot more. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i also like Linkin Park(most kick ass concert i will probably ever see), love SW Ep 1 and 2 and FF:Spirits Within, and i like Metallica's Load and Reload albums(yes sidwell i have no taste!), and i regularly listen to JPop and Black Metal back to back.. buwahahhahah! im crazy like that!!

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I was with you right up until that part [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Im ill to with a fever, snap! People do tend to think they are "cool" if they revel in the complete opposite of fashion, but (and im not being a dick here) the same could be said for you in that some people genuinly have personal morals that say they cant like something that every one else thinks is cool NOT because every one esle thinks its cool but because they dont believe in the brand/products moral value! so i think you have to seperate the people who hate just because others like and the people who have strong moral oppinions! I for one think the last two star wars fils were great i loved spirits within and i love space marines and i too think people are just sheep sometimes who are trying to be cool and individual but are actualy just following the crowd altho sometimes it seems lie you are just following the crowd but in actual fact you just happen to have strong oppinions! I think its a bit silly to say that other people who follow the crowd are just trying to be cool when in fact this subject has been brought up many times before on many different forums and in loads of conversations down the pub so YOU are in fact becoming what you hate by slaging others for what they like or dislike! you see what i mean!? im not saying you arnt free to express your own opinion... but you seem to be! and just to be cool and a "rebel" i hate linkon park they really do SUCK ass man not that their music sucks its actualy very catchy but catchy doesnt always make great music. I just dont like them.. end of story!

Jody

I normally don't mind the mainstream too much with the exception of Evanesence(since someone mentioned it).

I can't help but think they ripped off Lacuna Coil and put a whole ton of money behind it in marketing.

It's mainstream to be not-mainstream.

Circular logic folks!


EDIT: I don't know where that post came from Mojo, about Peter M.. but I'm with yah on it. Fable was a dissappointment. The last couple of his games I've played have disappointed. I like the guy for what he's doing for our community - multiple studios, etc., but the quality of fun in his games lately has been piss-poor.

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Well that is definitly NOT mainstream [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Concerning your rant, well I understand where you are coming from (e.g. the idea behind this rant), but most the time (at least where I live) the people who belive their views are smart and outside the normal, but in reality arn't really that uncommon or a result of their own thoughts, are far worse than those you are describing. (duh I hate those pseudo intellectuals : "I am not anti-american; I am anti Bush, because bla bla bla"... don't get me wrong though, I am against most what Bush stands for too, but at least I try to get a picture of both sides and stuff like that).

"It's mainstream to be not-mainstream."

exactly what i was saying cheers for summing it up im not the clearest of posters!

Jody

whoa.. didnt know this was such an issue benny boy.. its okay you like things other people dont or do. i dont care, but when someone else has an alternate view or opionion i dont think it is deserved to sterotype them into group and attack them. the main difference i see is instead of accepting people all like different things you are always trying prove or defend what you think is cool and that everyone should see your point of view. i might not like the same stuff as you and i might think the somethings suck.. but i also never really fight over or get mad about what i like. nor do i say everyone just likes it because everyone else likes it. wich seems to be the couter point of your idea that people only like stuff because noone else likes it. i dont know if you considered it in your line of reason but people like differernt things sometimes these things might not fit into your definition of what is even likable but its okay i am sure they have real reasons for liking it. you can hate what i like its cool, i wont give you a dissertation on why its cool and why you should think its cool. a good quote an art professor of mine said is "the world is filled with art.Each artist has their own style, each viewer their own taste.it is more important to find art you like than to judge what you dont."
your a pretty smart guy and i am not trying to attack nor throw you in a catagory because i dont think you really fit into one. i just wish you could see things that way, noone really fits into a sterotype. i love all kinds of mainstream stuff like 50 cent and the simpsons and i never goto coffeeshops or hipster punk/emo bars.. but you throw me into that catagory and anyone else who has a point of view that may be different. but i never call you sheep or drone of modern civilation, i just take your comments in stride and maybe throw in some type of comback but its all in fun and not personal attacks on your philosophy of life. it seems me and tracy have taken simalar paths in life and hung around the same types of people so our tastes in music and movies are simialar, but i know he isnt just likeing things becasue they are not popular the guy owns the damn pokemon movie. i think you should lighten up a bit down a bottol of nyquill and wake up in better mood.. we are not teaming up on you. find people that like what you like and talk about how cool it is, dont find things people dont like and then insult them for it cause its not how you believe. there is no one right or wrong way when it comes to things like movies and art so you shouldnt feel insulted when someone thinks differently... and final fanstasy way sucked [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Star Wars 1,2,3 is better then 4,5,6?
Man, you do have a fever.

Big titties never go out of style.

you can say in your oppinion 12 and 3 are better than 4 and 5 but how can you judge 6 as its not been released yet?

jody

All I know is that everything I like is cool, and everything I don't sucks.

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you can say in your oppinion 12 and 3 are better than 4 and 5 but how can you judge 6 as its not been released yet?

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Well some people refer to the old ones as 4,5,6 because that is how the books and the chronological order is. But back on topic: I hate Starwars [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] (but also the old ones)

You liked BATTLEFIELD EARTH????????!!!! DIE MAGGOT! BLUUUUUUUUUURGH!



I hereby taint this thread with my deathtouch.

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-seriously.

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-Amen. Unless you're a fashion model. What the hell's up with that? Why is it that the majority of men prefer Playboy measurements to Vogue measurements, yet women seek the opposite? I watched 'America's Next Top Model' last week and in the FIRST ROUND they kicked out the hottest one, in the opinion of myself and my wife, mind you. Because she weighed ten pounds more than the others. As a result, she was the only one with a chest! Stupid TV!

Hey, Poop, I've known quite a few people who've embraced the worldview you're railing against. The funny thing is, they're just another stupid clique. They all dress the same, just like the jocks do, just like the preppies do, just like the geeks do. I recall when Nirvana hit the big time, wearing crappy thrift store clothes (as all the hipsters in Olympia, myself included, did at the time) and the next thing you know the 'grunge look' is the IN thing, and the Gap is selling barfy flannels.

The good news is, most of us outgrow it eventually. I think it's just a holdover from High School. I don't know anyone my age any more who still gives a damn about what's hot or what's not. They just like what they like.

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I KNEW the second I posted that, someone would say exactly what you said. Hahahahha.

Tracy and Arsh, I know why you think this comment was directed against you guys, but it was more just my thoughts I've been having since School. Art Students are the worst about this type of thing. I just finally decided to type out what I thought. I blame the FEVER!!

I told Doc_Rob the other day that the office wasn't the same when you weren't around Arsh, you are the best! *hugs*

Lol at MrRogers post. Good stuff brought up in this thread by all. I'm sure the vast majority of people lie somewhere in between the two extremes, but I've just experienced too much of the whole "rebel" thing since I'm (supposedly) on the other end, so I wanted to speak up about it.

I try to be aware of what other people like and that opinions differ, I don't think my opinion is always right, but I have problems sometimes calming down when someones view is brought up forcefully in my face (as I'm sure most people do). I'm always more than willing to listen to a rational discussion and take part without going overboard on the other person.

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Come on, haven't you figured out the most neurotic people you'll ever meet will be people in high school?....and the neurosis lingers a little while afterwards.