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created Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 04:44 PM
http://www.massiveblack.com/sfw/sanfranworkshop.htm
What can I say? For me, this event dwarfs Siggraph, E3, and GDC put together. No fluff, No one there only because they are one of the good old boys. Only one vendor (corel painter).
Its all the good stuff, the lineup in just insane, John Foster, El Coro, Android, Jason Manley, Justin Sweet, and on and on and on. The amount of learning you will do in these 4 days is insane.
Its 550 bux, Hotels are 129 a night split between 4 people per room. I cannot stress how good a deal this is. This blows your school classes out of the water no matter how good your teachers are. These are some of the finest artist alive right now, all in one place, giving hardcore instruction. Its worth 5x this amount.
If you are a student, you cannot afford NOT to go. Don't wine, don't complain, just get there. Last year one guy sold his car in order to attend. If you are getting loans to pay for school, get one to cover this. It's seriously worth it.
I went to the Austin one, with Bobo, Darx, Guass, The_Bird, Scooby, St3ady, Joolz8000, J bradford, and BlankSlateJoe. I seriously learned more in those 4 days then any other class or workshop I have attended. Jason Manleys color theory lecture was amazing, watching Sparth lay down color and paint was out of this world, and seeing Smellybug sculpt was unbelievable.
This is the only workshop being held in the US this year. If it doesnt break even, (the austin one was at a loss) There will be no more workshops, and it would be a shame to see such an amazing thing die. Support the good artists, come learn a ton, and meet some amazing friends and artists.
I hope I sound like a friggin televangelist, because this was about as close to a religious experience you can have when dealing with art. Find a way to get there, thats all I can say.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 05:36 PM
I would love to go to this one, but I just dont know if I'll be able to raise the cash.
The last one was a blast, and really let me know where I stand skills wise.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 05:54 PM
Yeah, what Scooby said. I totally wanna go. I can't say enough how great the Austin one was- it's worth every penny.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 06:06 PM
I'd go, but from London, ONT. to San Fransico just isn't in my budget. I could sell everything I own to make up the money, but then what would I do with the knowledge I had gained? Draw on the sidewalk w/ chalk? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Really wish I could go [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 06:14 PM
I should be there [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] har har
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 06:40 PM
well damn.. if i can get the time off from work this looks to be sweet
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 08:23 PM
Well said Poop!
I'd love to go. Hawkprey was talking about the last one, we both would have liked to have gone to that one as well but when projects hit crunch you know how it goes.
I think you are completly right about just how huge an amount any of us would learn if we attended.
As an example..
I'm a hi poly newb but theres some hi poly monsters in the office and every couple of days or so I stand behind Pete Hayes ( YemYam ) for just 2 minutes and simply seeing 1 or 2 of what he considers 'lil tricks' completly changes my entire way of thought about hi poly and I grasp how to speed up my rate x3 and produce x2 my quality.
EVERYTIME.
Coming from the school of 'teach yourself' I've always had a sort of swaggering bravado mantra that would talk me into feeling pride in learning things the hard way and that I would get 'there' following my own road.
I was completly wrong on that one!
Spending 1 day listening to a master actually explain and demonstrate their methods shaves off 2-3 years of fumbling around by ourselves.
Point being, I think Poop is preaching the letter of the law here. Something like the MB Workshop is worth taking a loan for.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-01-2004 08:33 PM
Hell yeah! I'm down for that.
I was pissed that I wasn't able to go to the one down in TX earlier.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-02-2004 05:59 AM
I really think every should go that can. I was able to attend the one in June in a blistering hot Austin. There was an amazing bunch of artists there speaking, and also in attendance. Seeing Coro's sketchbooks and Marco draw in person are two enough reasons for any artist to go. I won't be able to go with the holidays right before this. I'm telling everyone I know to try and make it out there. I'd really love the workshops to be a constant thing and not die.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-02-2004 08:03 AM
WHOOPS, i knew i forgot someone, Jeffro was there with us to! represent!!!
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-03-2004 04:36 AM
I would love to attend, but having just paid for a move to Los Angeles I dont know if it will be possible for me =(
The whole thing makes me sad, because after seeing the pictures and write-ups from the Austin work shop I discovered a lot of badass artists like Marko and tons of others, and I promised myself that I would try to make it to the next one. With a little luck I will have some extra cash this holiday season, Ive got a birthday in December also so maybe that will bring me a little extra. Im not giving up hope yet!
Regardless, I would absolutely LOVE to attend this workshop, it would be a good kick in the ass to go back to my traditional roots and start drawing again. Plus it sounds like you guys had an awesome time partying with the massive black guys after hours also =)
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-03-2004 04:57 AM
nice
I must be blind, stupid or something or there is no date listed for this event on the website ?
This roomsharing thing, if somebody wants to do that, could he post that here.
Very hard to get that amount of money together but we will see [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
I tripped over a hidden edge
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-03-2004 08:56 AM
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-03-2004 01:13 PM
oh man... i hope to god i can get those days off work and we're not in some ridiculous crunch for testing that i cant escape..
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-28-2004 07:18 AM
Well, I booked my flights and reserved a spot at the workshop last night. This is gonna rock!
So who is DEFINITELY going, out of the polycount crew? We need to meet up sometime [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I can't wait ... I don't care if I'll be eating baked beans and noodles for the next 3 years - it will be worth it!
MoP
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-28-2004 09:17 AM
Dag!
I guess I won't be able to go this time as well.
I highly doubt I'll be able to get the time off, as I'll be scrubbing the blood off of poop's cubicle that week while he's gone.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-28-2004 11:12 AM
mop and me are roommates. 8-)
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-28-2004 11:51 AM
Do you know if they'll be selling DVDs of the presentations? If they really want to make sure this thing is profitable, that's the way to go. I would definitely spring for a set of DVDs because I can't actually go in person.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 11-29-2004 04:24 AM
Keep us posted on the DVDs. Theres no way I can come all the way from Australia to check this out (though I might if I had the cash), so it'd be great to be able to get my hands on one of those discs.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-01-2004 02:33 AM
I'm dead set on coming. 99.9% positive. Financially I can do this, just gotta straighten things out with work/school.
Any Seattle-area polycounters want to carpool? I'm up in Bellingham (2hrs north) and I'm looking at transportation down to CA, and I'll probably Greyhound it down if I can't find some people to go with. I'm willing to drive, I can pay my portion of gas costs, and I am also willing to drive my car, and unless bad luck befalls me, it should survive the trip (its an '89 Integra coupe w/ 200k+ miles on it).
Lodging is another issue... I've got a cousin in Modesto, which is about 2hrs away from San Fran, and he might possibly come. Don't necessarily want to drive 4hrs a day back to stay with them. A friend of mine from university is staying at the smaller of the two hotels, and she's rooming with a bunch of girls. Now that I think about it, she's also needing to figure out the transportation dealy. Regardless, feel free to contact me if it suits ya!
and stuff.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-01-2004 05:38 AM
Ahhhhh man, this looks really good - so much talent all together will be a GREAT learning experience.
Pity I cant book any time off at the minute due to crunch ... and the fact that I dont reall yknow anyone who would go with me from my circle of friends - or know anyone of here well enough to bunk rooms with [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Will have ot get my IRC client working through my client, start going in #modeldesign and socialise with all you rich, lucky, non-deadline having shmos to gleam some of the tips and secrets you got there...and make some buddies who I can share a room with at next years1 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
...and yeah - hope that DVD gets made - I for one would snap it up.
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-01-2004 02:07 PM
The title was misleading, I thought it had something to do with a Music act. I live close enough to san Fran to take my car or the train in. Interested. How much again?
Scott
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-01-2004 02:21 PM
$550 for the "entrance fee" ... 4 days of arty goodness! Then on top of that you will have hotel fees...
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-01-2004 08:55 PM
I think i might actually be able to go. <------- really freakin excited
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created Re: Massive Black Workshop
on 12-02-2004 07:18 AM
ben's totally got this thing nailed, it's an incredible incredible experience. Gogogogogogo!
joolze - hey man, remember me? I think I ate at ihop with you, medalwinds, cotron, metaphisiks, maldrin and his lady... at least.. I'm pretty sure that was you.
jeffro - I didn't know you were there, I wonder if I met you there..
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