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on 06-18-2012 05:29 PM
The Pro version comes with a Pen.
"off writing on the tablet, it looks great, he says it's at 600dpi."
http://gizmodo.com/5919328/what-is-m...updating-live/
The way that was written, does it mean its only 600dpi, or that the presenter had it at 600dpi?
What really is interesting for us and gamers in general is the pressure sensitive keyboard. Think, you could adjust in micro amounts the speed you rotate a model beyond mouse. Working in UED you could adjust the speed of your fly through without having to grab a joy. Of course this means support from these all first. Im sure MS will come out a PC keyboard with same functionality.
Just an Ivy I5, so your stuck with a Intel 4000 gpu. :/ Might still be good for zbrush though.
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Originally Posted by oXYnary
Working in UED you could adjust the speed of your fly through without having to grab a joy.
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If you mean the speed of the camera in the viewport, you can already do that with your mouse. Holding Control and scrolling will change the speed of the camera.
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, card carrying polycounter,
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looks pretty nice. i want
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, veteran polycounter,
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USB?!? Mommy!
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Yeah, looks like a nice tablet, I'd love to have a play with one.
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I goofed on the specs. Its an arm cpu with nvidia chipset. Sooo. We could do 3d on it. Buuuut there are no windows arm based conversions for our programs afaik.
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, veteran polycounter,
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You should check it out again, there's a Pro version that uses Intel. (Nevermind you posted about that in your first post).
So I was pretty blown away by this. Real great opportunity for a device that has a mix between a content consumption and creation.
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Just give me a god damn Wacom pen with it and I'll by it. I kinda want and tablet, but can't really find my self using a reagular tablet for more then surfin in the couch. Not really worth the money. But if you could actually make it into a tool it would be great!
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, dedicated polycounter,
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I'm quite excited, this may be the first tablet that I'll own. The keyboard cover is an awesome idea, and the inclusion of a USB port is also a plus. If the stylus thing works well with the tablet then this will be quite the contender in the market.
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so what is the difference between the Samsung Slate and this? Been looking at getting the samsung slate 7, mainly because it can run zbrush, PS and has a wacom tablet. You guys think i should wait for this?
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Originally Posted by Drav
so what is the difference between the Samsung Slate and this? Been looking at getting the samsung slate 7, mainly because it can run zbrush, PS and has a wacom tablet. You guys think i should wait for this?
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Well this one has a pen accessory and is pressure sensitive. But they haven't said if it's wacom enabled pen or M$ enabled pen. I like the design and form factor. The Samsung Slate has been on my mind lately too. In England stores have already sliced the price of the Samsung Slate. Hopefully they'll do the same at US stores.
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/1...ablet-appears/
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, veteran polycounter,
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And it's slightly smaller than the slate as well. Man, I would realy need one now, but I don't want to rush a purchase if the new version comes soon... Arg, give us dates and prices for crying out loud !
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oh... the Pro version will come 3 months later, erf...
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I didn't think the screen was pressure sensitive - is that not just the keyboard peripheral?
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, veteran polycounter,
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Reading a few more places I think you're right Rick. The keyboard definitely is pressure sensitive. The screen they haven't said yet. Wish they would have just announced a price/release date for this. Tends to make a bigger splash then "releasing soonish" and 3 months later.
It's also interesting cause now M$ competes directly with Toshiba, Samsung, and all the other OEM Windows tablet/slate makers. Seems like a really messed up situation. But I guess regardless they'll win. OEMs do well they sell more OS, they do well they move more hardware. Curious to see how it's going to play out.
Without a pressure sensitive screen I personally could care less. I already own too damn many iDevices.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffro
Well this one has a pen accessory and is pressure sensitive. But they haven't said if it's wacom enabled pen or M$ enabled pen. I like the design and form factor. The Samsung Slate has been on my mind lately too. In England stores have already sliced the price of the Samsung Slate. Hopefully they'll do the same at US stores.
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/1...ablet-appears/
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Well that's interesting! I wish I actually had some kind of income. I was thinking about the Slate 7 even when it was 1000£, with shipping I would get it for 800€-ish. Compared to 1.300€ here in Sweden >.<
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Without a pressure sensitive screen I personally could care less. I already own too damn many iDevices.
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I could be entirely wrong here, but isn't it the stylus itself that is pressure sensitive on Wacom style devices? So it's not so much the pressure sensitive panel that's important here, it's the stylus.
If it needs a massive finger input for the touchscreen to register then the stylus will just have huge nibs on like the iPad styli, doesn't matter how much pressure sensitivity you get then, the stylus is just too big to do any detail work.
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...you're really still taking the time to write MS with a dollar sign? ugh
I have heard they wanted to set a quality bar with this. Too many shitty products use Windows, creating a basic mindset of Windows being shitty. Create a distinction between a Microsoft product and the madcatz of the world.
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I'll, bite, I'm interested in the Pro. With the right price, I could easily go for one since it's essentially a reasonably decent Windows box. I'd much rather have one with dedicated graphics, though 
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Looks slick, any word on how much it might cost?
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Originally Posted by Sectaurs
...you're really still taking the time to write MS with a dollar sign? ugh
I have heard they wanted to set a quality bar with this. Too many shitty products use Windows, creating a basic mindset of Windows being shitty. Create a distinction between a Microsoft product and the madcatz of the world.
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I agree. Right now they are a dunk circus clown balancing on a giant greased beach ball, trying hard not to face plant into a sea of cream pies that cover the ground around them.
Successfully separating themselves from the madcatz of the world has about the same chances as the clown dismounting cleanly. Best of luck MS, if anyone needs a win its you guys.
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Sectaurs Fine MS looks like they are taking quality into the design more. But it's still an odd move. Samsung, Toshiba, Acer, etc just got increased competition (and not even from Apple) for the people that make what drives their tablets. Just seems like the OEMs would say fuck off MS and go to Android or some alternative.
The design does looks slick. But I have an iPad and it's fine to make art as much as it is making art with my kids giant crayons. So I end up reading comics and books on it the most. For me personally I'm more interested in a Wacom enabled tablet that has at least 256 pressure levels.
For Apple haters this is huge though. I can also see this thing being huge with Businesses. I've seen a few iPad at Doctors offices lately and it seems like MS will creep into that market.
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For me personally I'm more interested in a Wacom enabled tablet that has at least 256 pressure levels.
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If this thing has some pressure sensitivity and a good price point, I'll hop on that.
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I read that the pro version, the one with the stylus, will be priced comparable to "ultrabooks" so $1400 and up.
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Sec, I am so used to writing that slang it was unconciously typed. I even do it with employees I know.
From what I think with this digital ink is the stylus does all the work. If so if the stock one is only 600dpi, I wonder if aftermarket could sell a higher res stylus.
I didnt realize the lower end used the arm while the upper used Intel. Which is getting the Nvidia chipset? If the upper is just getting Intel graphics alone.... I'll keep holding back until some manufacturer gets it through their head to offer a Amd pressure sensitive version (hopefully with high rez screen). With the integrated ATI gpu, its leaps and bounds better for our uses than the Intel.
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