She Wolf

row_09 · Jun 2014

Hey all

I found this artwork some time ago. It have made a WOW effect on me. The artwork was made by Brandon Liao.

He allowed me to use it for making 3d model.

So lets begin) All critique is welcome:)

row_09 · Sep 2014

Hey guys

Here is blocking of the model. Some of the elements will not be identical to concept art, but maximum close to it.

Here is the screenshot:

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Next my goal is creating glove.

row_09 · Oct 2014

Gloves in progress. I have made finger, claw and other element of the glove.

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Brian "Panda" Choi · Oct 2014

Her bottom heavy hourglass figure isn't being quite nailed down. You have the props there, but you need to go back in and really get those pants more baggy and her bottom pelvic area a lot wider and more buxom to sell the proportions that I'm seeing in Brandon's concept.

Also, her breasts look more like balloons with air instead of drooping sand filled breasts. Give weight to them.

Btw, what are you rendering the High poly models in? Looks wonderful!

Legion_studios · Oct 2014

LOL I WAS EXPECTING THIS :P

http://breadwinningmama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/hello_kitty001.png

row_09 · Oct 2014

@JadeEyePanda Thank you for critique. Her pelvis area and her breasts are need to be fixed 100%.
About render, thanks) I rendered in KeyShot. All render settings were default, only 128 samples instead 16)

@Legion_studios Haha, I was thinking about this character too) but this Kitty is a little bit more aggressive

row_09 · Nov 2014

Update:

I have fixed the body and made geometry of a the glove

weiswayne · Nov 2014

woah this is looking awesome!
But i gotta agree with JadeEyePanda though, the boob area still looks kindda off, the natural weight of the breast plus the metal plating on the armor should have weighted it down more.
can't wait to see it finished

row_09 · Nov 2014

@weiswayne, thank you, pal:) I will correct her boob area one more time) Also I am planning the next step- detailing of the girl.

pmiller001 · Nov 2014

I agree with JadeEyePanda, her figure isnt coming through on your model just yet.She's definetly got an hour glass frame, yours is on the way there.

row_09 · Nov 2014

Thank you, pmiller001:) I will fix it

row_09 · Dec 2014

Hey guys. Here is an update. I have fixed her boob area, pelvis area and some other parts.

Need this girl more muscular arms or not? And also what is your opinion about whole character?

oxygencube · Dec 2014

Chest/breast area look much better and more natural. Maybe revisit the stomach area and give it a little more definition/belly. Also, the neck area could use a little more definition. Otherwise I think it's looking really nice!

Catzcratch · Dec 2014

i love how your handling the hard surfaces . but not so much with organic ones .
for the pants folds id recommend not looking at the concept for reference
pants tend to have horizontal folds instead of vertical specially here the pants are baggy with boots holding them up
check the folds here for example . notice how there are lots of horizontal folds right above the shoes :
Men-s-Casual-Baggy-Harem-Hip-Hop-Dance-Sweat-Sport-Pants-Trousers-Slacks-4-Sizes.jpg

Men-s-Casual-Baggy-Harem-Hip-Hop-Dance-Sweat-Sport-Pants-Trousers-Slacks-4-Sizes.jpg

not the best ref . just an example

row_09 · Dec 2014

Thank you for the kind words and for good advices

oxygencube, got it, yes, you are right. I will revise her stomach area and neck area.

Catzcratch , thanks for the screenshot. Really, her pants should be more looks like your reference. I will try two variants: Marvelous Design and hand-made folds.

Brian "Panda" Choi · Dec 2014

Question @ everyone: Are complex hard surface objects like the hand claws supposed to take "forever" so to speak?

row_09 · Dec 2014

JadeEyePanda Man, sorry, I don't understand your question. Do you mean, that she can take off her gloves?

lotet · Dec 2014

row_09 wrote: »

JadeEyePanda Man, sorry, I don't understand your question. Do you mean, that she can take off her gloves?

I think he meant to model.
"are complex stuff like the claws supposed to take forever to model?"

row_09 · Dec 2014

lotet wrote: »

I think he meant to model.
"are complex stuff like the claws supposed to take forever to model?"

I have spent not so much time to model this claws and other stuff. I had so little free time last months, that is why this project has long terms:)

row_09 · Jul 2015

Hey there. I continue making of my character.
Now is high-poly modelling

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amirabd2130 · Jul 2015

love the claws.
looking forward to this

RocketBryan · Jul 2015

I love that concept, I'll be following this thread to see how you tackle her.

row_09 · Jul 2015

amirabd2130 and Rocket Brian thank you guys. Brandon Liao is cool artist and this his concept is awesome)

row_09 · Jul 2015

Update. Face

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Guys, I have a question:

I baked normal map in ZBrush. But it has weird result OC3FKYo-7OsrIL7W7k7Uk68pPQbJFcEov3yAyfrsKM8=s955-no

How to bake Normal Map without splitted smooth groups?

Crazy_pixel · Jul 2015

I don't know why you are baking with Zbrush, instead you can use Xnormal for a clean baking result

row_09 · Jul 2015

Crazy_pixel wrote: »

I don't know why you are baking with Zbrush, instead you can use Xnormal for a clean baking result

Thank you, pal, I will bake it in Xnormal)

iFraude · Jul 2015

You should smooth your normals before attempting to bake, that's why you get such faceted results

. Cheers !

EDIT : Seems like you already know that, sorry, didn't read properly, late in the night and all...

row_09 · Jul 2015

iFraude wrote: »

You should smooth your normals before attempting to bake, that's why you get such faceted results . Cheers !

EDIT : Seems like you already know that, sorry, didn't read properly, late in the night and all...

Thank you

I have found the smooth normals button in ZBrush. But before I baked it in XNormal, and it gave better result

row_09 · Jul 2015

Update

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Was baked skin, made eyes and eyelashes. Also was setted up a light in the scene. I mean this direction of light.

Guys, need your advice. Do you know some good tutorials about making hair for the realtime tharacters? For hair with planes and alphas.

Jarran · Jul 2015

looking very nice mate, I had my doubts at first but good job! I'm not sure how others do it but this tutorial was very helpful for me:
click me

row_09 · Jul 2015

@Jarran Thank you, pal!!

I'm glad you like this character) And thank you for the tutorial! very nice info

Kyle KR · Jul 2015

I like the face in that last render. So pretty

, It's like shes staring right at me.

row_09 · Jul 2015

Kyle KR wrote: »

I like the face in that last render. So pretty , It's like shes staring right at me.

Haha, thank you, pal!

Abrvpt · Jul 2015

Very nice hardsurface work ! But the trousers are really weak compared to the rest of the piece, therefore making the whole thing kinda so-so...
You have better folds than before but you don't seem to have fully get how cloth works yet. This page might be useful http://www.mightyartdemos.com/mightyartdemos-bradley.html
It's important to mix the references with a certain understanding of cloth, especially when references are hard to find.
I also made a very crappy paintover to indicate what I think would be the main directions of the folds.

Because they are baggy pants in boots, you want to have some large, deep folds on some places (mainly the long diagonal folds in the front view)
Hard to find a ref that perfectly matches her trousers but this one might help:
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row_09 · Jul 2015

WOW, Abrvpt , thank you, mate! The article and your feedback will be very usefull for me, because I still don't know how to draw the folds on this type of pants

I am going to remake this parts of pants

row_09 · Aug 2015

Update:
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PrecisionClear · Aug 2015

An interesting cross between Freddy Cougar, Wolverine, and Princess Monoke.

Those skin textures really brought her to life near the end.

row_09 · Aug 2015

PrecisionClear, thank you, fellow!:) yes, the idea of the character is really interesting.

pixelpatron · Aug 2015

Those pants, I know you're probably at your wits end with them, but man....still not there. The folds are too detailed and busy, especially around the knees. I know it's hard, but throw it away, start over, don't worry about little details, get the big shapes right. Even if you strait up copied the outlines given by Abrvpt you'd be in a better place concerning those pants.

I see what you were trying to do......and I'll say what works for the concept does sometimes not work when translated to 3-D, it's where you as a 3-D artist have to make a call and find real world reference, apply, or stylize and apply. Our brains know that cloth material doesn't behave that way, and it's causing us to pause and dissect it.

You were planning on informing the viewer they were pants by texture weren't you? Go back, model that shit, and those folds.....reset, again.

Again!

row_09 · Mar 2016

PIXELPATRON , thank you for your advice!
I am working in the Marvelous Designer. Here is the variant I actually like. What is yours opinion?

She Wolf

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