arvinmoses game art progression

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

So I've posted a few different things on different threads here, and I thought this might be easier.

New Project - Doing a scene from an Feng Zhu School concept:

Quick Update:
I kinda worked backwards here and created some tileable substances first to plug in as I texture. Also found out there's so much you can create with substances. I've even been able to generate a very basic cloth with it.

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Substances:

ARKHAM CITY - GUN
UPDATE - REVISION 4 - about ready to call this done.

slosh · Sep 2014

damn, looking really nice...great work!

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

Wow! Thanks man!

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

Was messing with RO dirt and liked how it turned out. Quick Update.

Bedrock · Sep 2014

The wooden bits are a little too grey scale compared to the concept art. Looks great though, post more screens from different angles perhaps?

Esindesign · Sep 2014

Outstanding work! I'm also a fellow substance user. That wood and metal texture is outstanding, any chance you could share the substance file for reverse engineering or show me how you did it?

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

I agree with wood looking a little too desaturated. I'll run a fix when I can. Thanks for the tip.

The wood is built primarily through a sculpt, not through substance noise. I basically used a base color, then blended it with a curvature map running through a blend node. I then added some random noise to get variation. I'll post when I get some work time again.

As far as the metal, it's pretty simple. I use the same basic nodes for it. I do a metal edge wear, some random noise, and for some of the metals I ran it through a rust weathering node. I'll post some close ups as well when I can.

I'll also try to do some basic videos on my workflow.

Thanks for all the compliments. I was starting to get discouraged with my pursuit of this as a career and the kind remarks have encouraged me. Thanks.

amartinez · Sep 2014

Looks awesome man, nice!
I don't see any difference between the RO dirt and the previous one. Could you put a comparison? Would like to see how RO Dirt nodes helped you.
Thanks!

Anchang-Style · Sep 2014

Hmm this is just me so you can totally ignore it, but the handle looks very uncomfortable to hold for whoever wants to blow holes into someone else. The handle in the concept looks smoother (smooth enough to have a highlight) and the trigger looks a tad bitt too big /wide. I mean weapons should feel good in the hand, and this was build professionally by someone since it doesn't look like some makeshift weapons with a sock, a potato and a lawn mower. Also yeah giving the wood a bit more saturation would add to an impression of beeing nice to your hands while beeing on a killing spree...don't want splinters in your hand when blowing a load in some dude's head do you?

Still i like your detailing way more. The golden Elements pop very well, the writing fits the whole thing great and the proportion feel a lot mor feasable.

AlexCatMasterSupreme · Sep 2014

I'd do this and tone down the tons of un-natural noise you have all over your metal, it looks like paper noise and not metal noise as well as the wear. Less blue in the lighting and getting hte nice warm wood tones will help lots as well. I would also try and get more geo cut into the wood cracks which look big enough to break the edges but do not and it feels very angular, when wood this worn would be smooth edged and such. THis is most aparent at the low poly edge of the handle near the base.

Marshkin · Sep 2014

Fantastic work! I'd love to see some of the other angles if you care to share!

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

I made some of the suggestions you guys put. I think it looks distinctly better.

I also attached my wood graph for those interested.

AlexCatMasterSupreme · Sep 2014

I like it much more, I think one final thing that could help and i highly recommend is less rust on the exposed bits, less noise in the middle of the metal and instead on the side, so it's less even and then making there be more silver in some of the metal that's rusty because it blends in a tad with the wood. You have a lot of either warm or cool lighting in your shots which is working against you IMO. The concept looks so cool partially because of the very very slight (super) warmth of color on the metal, but it's so subtle.

Also one thing that I think could drastically help is making your noise more focused and less evenly distributed.

Please don't call it done yet because it's looking really cool but it could be a bit even cooler:D

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

Thanks for all the constructive suggestions. It helps alot.

less noise in the middle of the metal and instead on the side, so it's less even and then making there be more silver in some of the metal that's rusty because it blends in a tad with the wood

I'm having a tough time understanding this. Could you elaborate?

You have a lot of either warm or cool lighting in your shots which is working against you IMO. The concept looks so cool partially because of the very very slight (super) warmth of color on the metal, but it's so subtl

I think I know what you're referring to here, but I'm really having a tough time getting this look. In fact the adjustment to the material took about 15-30 mins. The other 1.5 hours went into trying to adjust the lighting. When I warm the lighting it seems to keep washing out the details because it gets so warm. I'll try again and see what I can get.

skodone · Sep 2014

i lvoe the wood

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

Thanks for the positive feedback!

Here are some updates:

Also a light comparison - I've been looking at it too long. Can't tell if the other image is too hot.

3dReaper · Sep 2014

The render seems to add too much warmth to the metal parts of the gun. That warmth also seems to add an odd effect to the wood. The wood just is not coming off very well because of the lighting. Also the third image from the top looks slightly blurry near the end of the barrel. Is this from a depth of field effect?

I really like the actual look of the piece though, very unique. The metal of the gun looks great. You did a great job of creating the concept to reality in my opinion.

arvinmoses · Sep 2014

Do you think the final image solves the warmth issues or is it still too hot?

3dReaper · Sep 2014

I think it still looks a bit "hot."

AlexCatMasterSupreme · Oct 2014

I meant super super almost non-existant warmth, sorry. :P

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Thanks for all the help so far. I'm trying a few things.

Okay... so I decided I'd take some color samples on the original to see what was going on with the lighting...

The top lights look like they actually have a bluish tint. It's the bottom light that may be giving off some slight warm tint. Oddly the image leans more toward blue than brown.

I'm to the point now where I feel I'm splitting hairs and I'm just bouncing back and forth. It's almost like I make some adjustments and realize another part doesn't look as good as before.

I think I need to call this done - but I'd love to hear some last minute things I could do if there's anything more.

3dReaper · Oct 2014

The lighting looks much better.

Good job!

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Thanks! Well I think I'll call this one done. I have a new project planned out. I'll start up next week.

Thanks everyone for helping get this where it needs to be

rohitsinghbhui · Oct 2014

this is damn NIce...

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Thanks for the comments guys. New project!

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Wanting to make that back wall brick and mortar. Could use some advice. Using Substance so it's all procedural. Makes some things a little trickier. No sculpt. Just procedural noise.

Eyes are getting tired and could use some objective input.

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

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dzibarik · Oct 2014

I remember your gun from Modo forums! It looks badass. Did you sculpt wood texture in Modo or Zbrush (before you ran it through Designer)?

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Thanks man. The original wood for the gun was sculpted, but I just finished a SD version.

With Brick:

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Update:

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Quick Update:
I kinda worked backwards here and created some tileable substances first to plug in as I texture. Also found out there's so much you can create with substances. I've even been able to generate a very basic cloth with it.

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Substances:

MeshModeler · Oct 2014

breakdown on the substance nodes you used please

dzibarik · Oct 2014

arvinmoses wrote: »

Thanks man. The original wood for the gun was sculpted, but I just finished a SD version.

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this is a very cool looking substance. I want to do something like this for my project I'm going to restart tommorow.

arvinmoses · Oct 2014

Thanks guys. Sorry for the long update. I'm planning to give away the brick, but I'll try to do a breakdown as well.

Good luck on creating wood. Let me know if you need help.

Quick Update:

arvinmoses · Nov 2014

@Meshmodeler
Sorry man. I thought I responded to this one somewhere but may not have. I'll try to do an overview and also give out the substance for study and tweaking.

@dzibarik Thanks man. I'll post a link to that substance as well if you wanna study it.

Quick update on a character I'm reworking:

arvinmoses · Nov 2014

Update.

C&C appreciated.

arvinmoses · Nov 2014

Update:

arvinmoses · Nov 2014

Another

arvinmoses · Dec 2014

Done with this one for now.

Crazy_pixel · Dec 2014

I like this little guy

Interesting shape, nice material definition, good work :thumbup:

arvinmoses · Dec 2014

Yay! Thanks man! Much appreciated! Been trying to get my mats better. Substance Painter was great for that!

I might revisit him later to pose and give some weapons, but I'm calling him done for now.

Gonna finish up an environment -
Here are current textures I'm working on via Substance Designer. Still planning to release these - just been busy.
It's all using a single 27kb substance. So efficient in memory space!

arvinmoses · Dec 2014

Continuing this scene.
I know the stairs right now are for a giant.

arvinmoses game art progression

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