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Sculpted Bakes & Optimized Rock Wall

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Sculpted in mudbox from a basic subdivided rectangle, decimated in meshlab, baked in 3ds Max and textured in photoshop, I create this rock wall to teach myself sculpting as I have been putting learning sculpting off and now realy need to learn it for sculpting textures and this is the result.

I am aware of the stretching as the UV's are not as relaxed as they could be I did this model very quickly, feedback wanted. I don't think I will take this any further unless you convince me otherwise as I don't think I can learn much more from this particular model and will probably be moving onto trying to sculpt a texture.

EDIT: The rest of the enviroment in UDK has nothing to do with the model, was just an open project I droped it into to see what it would look like in UDK.
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  • BlenderCube
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    BlenderCube polycounter lvl 7
    Started now to move onto trying to sculpt for Tillable Textures, using displaced height maps to make the textures tillable, unfortunately when Sculpting Using a Texture Map, I keep getting strange results, like the details have been lost. I think this is to do with the Hight map rather then the Sculpting operation but i'm not sure.

    The Mesh is subdivided the same number of times as the original sculpt with the same number of vertices.

    Thanks.

    Original Sculpt:
    Cobble.png

    Sculpted With hight Map:
    Displacement.png

    Close up of Distortion:
    CobbleClose.png
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  • AlecMoody
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    AlecMoody ngon master
    These aren't bad for your first sculpts but they read as blobby and procedural looking. You will do a lot better if you back up to a lower density and work on establishing planes and large forms. When you have something solid you can incrementally subdivide and tighten details.

    Also, look at reference images for what you want to achieve.
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  • BlenderCube
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    BlenderCube polycounter lvl 7
    I have managed to fix the displacement issue as I was rendering a normal Diffuse in place of a Vector displacement, and although I have still had some issues with getting the texture to be tillable I decided to see what the final texture would look like after the other processes had taken place, I am aware that my sculpt could have had much more work on it but rather than trying to improve the sculpt I find it best when learning to move on and start over a few times before committing due to loss of interest/fatigue.

    This is the texture as in its final form. not tillable as was wanted and could be much better.

    Rock.png

    This was rendered with the normal map applied.
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  • Sebvhe
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    Sebvhe greentooth
    Not bad for a first shot (mine were waaaay worse :) )

    I don't believe scuplting out of a box is a good way to make textures. Some like to start with a displacement map extracted from photosources with software like CrazyBump or Knald and then start sculpting on top of the displaced mesh.
    If you want to keep a tiled result in ZBrush you should have a look into warpmode.

    Another way (which I prefer) is to decompose the final result into parts. Considering making a high poly cliff, instead of just sculpting a cliff out of a box, I'd make a few rocks maybe 4-5 and the merge them together as a cliff. This has, I believe a few advantages :
    - It's quicker if you don't have a good photosource base.
    - It will look way less "blobby".
    - You could have two similar cliffs with the same rocks without starting all over again.
    - It's quiet easy to make it tile.
    If I wanted to have a paved road, I'd just build a few cobblestone and them put them together to make the pavement.

    As for your issue with heightmaps, this is actually normal, since you bake your heightmap in a 8bit texture, you only have 256 different height values. This really quickly creates a "stair effect" aliasing due to sampling.
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  • BlenderCube
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    BlenderCube polycounter lvl 7
    I have found in mudbox I am having some issues with multiple objects in the same scene, when subdivided and sculpted I find the software becomes very slow, despite having the same number of polygon's.

    + I don't think ZBrush is an autodesk software so I cant get a student version which is a shame as I am finding mudbox very limiting.
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  • Sebvhe
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    Sebvhe greentooth
    You don't necessarily need to merge your multiple objects in Mudbox, you could do it in Maya/Max/Blender, whatever you use.
    Just reduce them a bit if your computer cannot manage that much polygons.
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