Texturing studies. Four different miniature scenes in Marmoset 2.

BARDLER · Feb 2014

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I want to push my texturing and material definition skills. Instead of just doing material swatches I figured it would be more fun to do little mini diorama scenes.

This one is a greek inspired one. I have never textured marble before and my wood texturing skills are meh, so the idea is pretty straight forward. Here is what I have so far.

Any comments are welcome.

unit187 · Feb 2014

This looks nice, great idea. My suggestion would be to give some variation to rocks. Probably make it like a rock has fallen from the cart and broken apart (even though those rocks would not break that easily, but it would be visually more interesting).

Jeff Parrott · Feb 2014

I really like mini diorama style pieces. I'd just say create more visual interest and material opportunities. Right now everything looks like it's made from the same material. Make the wood have a bit more gloss than the ground and the ground less than the stone. Maybe add some fruit stand or something to help frame things a bit.

tharle · Feb 2014

the edges of the blocks look a little too worn to me - marble is quite a hard stone so wouldnt really break apart so much imo. some broken corners are good but a few hard edges would be good too.

no crits on the wood, although compositionally i'd rotate the wheel so the planks dont run parallel to the main cart, just to break up the lines a little bit.

almighty_gir · Feb 2014

i feel like you need some variance in the gloss/roughness values here. the marble would ideally be quite a bit more glossy, the wood would have the biggest variance in glossiness though... gloss around the areas that are handled the most where natural oils seep in quite frequently and get rubbed by hands etc. similarly, you'd see quite worn wood along the inside edges of the cart where the marble has been rubbing against it and tearing it away quite frequently. The metal rim of the cart doesn't quite read as metallic yet either, again this can be fixed in just the gloss.

Pegbird · Feb 2014

Ditto on mini dioramas, I like them a lot too. The marble could definately use a generous helping of gloss. The wood looks great, perhaps a tad more variation in the albedo?

I've been doing a lot of experimentation in Marmoset 2 lately as well. It is extremely powerful for this sort of thing but that the image-based lighting can wash things out slightly and make values "too realistic". I've found pushing the sharpness filter on the camera settings and pushing the contrast of the spec/gloss maps helps offset this.

BARDLER · Feb 2014

Really appreciate the feedback, all good stuff, and is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you so much. I will post an update soon.

BARDLER · Feb 2014

Tweaks and updates. Still not 100 happy with the wood. Might have to redo some of the grain and masks.

I accidentally rotated my camera here but I like the shot lol

Any comments welcome. I want to start the next scene this weekend.

stevston89 · Feb 2014

I would add noise/ white specs into your gloss for the granite especially on the rough edges. As far as the wood goes I think it is looking good. What bugs me the most is the lack of wood grain on the flat planks. Also I would like to see more color and value change in the wood. It would look nice to add some cracks on the edge on the corners and edges of the wood with no gloss. Here are a few of reference images for you.

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Jeff Parrott · Feb 2014

Definitely better. Keep pushing it. I know it helps me to do paintovers of my own own. Just free form ideas with a red pen in Photoshop. Sometimes the ideas won't work. But at times the ideas are really helpful.

BARDLER · Feb 2014

Last update on this one. I gotta move onto the next one this week. Thanks for all the feedback, will post an update on the next one soon.

leleuxart · Feb 2014

This looks like a great study. Looking forward to the next ones!

sulzbunny · Feb 2014

really great way to present material studies. excellent work!

Assassinaded · Feb 2014

Looks like theres a shadow on the metal ring around the wheel. I personally think the wood has to much gloss.

NomadSoul2501 · Feb 2014

This is turning out great

I think you can go rougher on the fresh cut marble though.
If memory serves me right, marble is very matte until processed and polished.
The floor tiles and the cart are fantastic though!

BARDLER · Feb 2014

Started the next one, got the ground to the first pass. I think I need a little more large scale detail in there, but I am happy with it so far.

More to come this week.

BARDLER · Mar 2014

Made the wall, got some awesome feedback from I Fought A Bear

Tweaking the ground still, not 100 percent happy with it yet. I want to get the wooden support beams in there tomorrow night.

Thanks for looking!

BARDLER · Mar 2014

Here is the setup of the scene with the main parts put in. I need to add the mine tracks and cart next which I think will help a lot. Any comments welcome.

s6 · Mar 2014

Looking good!

My only critique would be: It looks very diffused. Almost like it's normal and diffuse only.

Perhaps add some simulated moisture to portions of the rocks to add some specular/gloss variance. Maybe water leaking from the sealing or something as well?

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Maybe more diffuse variation as well, From asset to asset. They all read kind of similarly. I'd think the rocks lining the edge could be more similar to the walls, and maybe the pillars could be darker like old stained railroad ties?

Just some thoughts. Looking forward to the rails and cart being added.

stevston89 · Mar 2014

This is looking good. My only concern is that the majority of the materials will be exactly the same as the last scene you made. Might be a good idea to throw some plants or cloth or something in here. Coming along nicely!

BARDLER · Mar 2014

Thanks for feedback guys, I will keep those in mind moving forward.

Joost · Mar 2014

Looking good! Where's the light in the front of the picture coming from? Is it supposed to be from a hole in the ceiling? If so I'd add some light rays or just replace it with a warmer light. Also agree with s6, might be a good idea to simulate some wetness on the rocks and wood, maybe even some puddles.

SaboR1996 · Mar 2014

Nice textures on the wood, wood texturing is seriously the bane of my existence, I cant sculpt it, I cant even get it to look good through photo sourcing, Great work

Texturing studies. Four different miniature scenes in Marmoset 2.

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