Originally Posted by aajohnny

Not to sound biased but from my experience PC players are typically better then console players, maybe its the keyboard and mouse idk :p

Im not new to pc gaming, I just don't have alot of time logged into BF3 on pc simply because most of my friends with it are on xbox

the new mode, Gun Master, it's pretty fun. Frustrating some times but pretty fun

I hope they nerf Jeeps in the next patch. ;)

Battlefield 3: Wheels of Terror 2 (More road kill...

So any thoughts on Dice pushing a new Battlefield next year?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012...eta-next-year/

I was always under the impression that Battlefield was build around a hardcore community that took the game and played it for at least 3-4 years. But i might be wrong on that. I think a lot of people are still playing the other ones, in lack of a proper game i guess with 3. This is like a slap on the face... specially since they had that extra dlc bundle for like 40 dlls or something. Thoughts?

No thoughts. Black ops was my last COD because I switched to bf because bc2 was amazing, and BF3 is my last Battlefield. Time to wait for a new franchise to hit and play the hell out of it before another publisher runs it into the ground.

Its just sad to see this tho.... the collectors edition of this was like 70dlls... plus the dlc that was 50 dlls thats a lot of money spent on a game that just had its life half lifed. I do agree with you that it must be time to drop the game and wait for something fresh to come out to replace it.

Overreaction. They are still quite obviously working on/supporting BF3 and by the time we see BF4 it will have had a great life, well worth the $50-100 you chose to spend on it.

Not an Overreaction. Its EA. Publishers ruin games and theres no smoke and mirrors to it. If it makes money theyll milk it and mess with the game trying to expand its userbase, aka ruining what was original about it. I generally respect Ubisoft and other major publishers, but despise EA and Activison.

Microsoft may buy Activison, we can only hope. Halo was the biggest hit on Xbox for almost an entire decade, and Microsoft never told Bungie what to change, and the games continued to be great.


You can easily see EA told dice to overlap BF3 into MW3 gameplay a little in order to try and steal some MW3 players. Its stupid and it made BF3 more like MW3. BF3 does not feel like bf2 or bc2.

A great example to prove my above point is call of duty slowly made snipers more useless, as did BF (trying to win over a % of the cod audience). Bc2 was 100x better than MW2 simply because of how fun sniping was. Rather than removing it or adding scope glint crap and making the classes damage near useless, they could have just made sniping harder by adding wind.

I still find sniping incredibly fun and am quite good at it. Opinions I guess.

Did you ever play BC2? BF3 sniping is alright but doesn't compare.

Yeah I played the shit out of BC2. Still do in fact, but no where near as much as BF3 now.

As long as it is good and it has a good amount of elements to set it apart from BF3 I will buy it.

I think its great that they are working on a new one.
But I wouldn´t expect it to release untill xmas 2013 at the earliest.

They have been releasing BF games every 2-3 years now since BC1 I believe so this wasn´t exactly a surprise to me at all.
And given the name of the last DCL pack, even less so :P

I´m hoping they either do a 2142 follow up, or go back to WW2 for the next one for a true follow up 1942.
Hell I even would love to see a Bad Company 3.. I really liked the two previous ones.
Both for single player and multiplayer.

Originally Posted by frell

Not an Overreaction. Its EA. Publishers ruin games and theres no smoke and mirrors to it. If it makes money theyll milk it and mess with the game trying to expand its userbase, aka ruining what was original about it. I generally respect Ubisoft and other major publishers, but despise EA and Activison.

Microsoft may buy Activison, we can only hope. Halo was the biggest hit on Xbox for almost an entire decade, and Microsoft never told Bungie what to change, and the games continued to be great.


You can easily see EA told dice to overlap BF3 into MW3 gameplay a little in order to try and steal some MW3 players. Its stupid and it made BF3 more like MW3. BF3 does not feel like bf2 or bc2.

A great example to prove my above point is call of duty slowly made snipers more useless, as did BF (trying to win over a % of the cod audience). Bc2 was 100x better than MW2 simply because of how fun sniping was. Rather than removing it or adding scope glint crap and making the classes damage near useless, they could have just made sniping harder by adding wind.

You can easily see why EA told dice to overlap bf3 into MW3 gameplay once you're aware of the fact that modern warfare 3 sold 20+ million copies.. Of course they want some of that action. It's a business designed to make money.. And a rather successful go of it they had with over 15 million people buying the game.. So while some people have some issues with it (you), it's still an amazingly fun game that's beautiful as hell...

So the guys with premium 'buy' a Dlc not long before the newest instalment of Battlefield? ;')

I dunno... call me skeptical about it. But paying 70 for the game + 50 for the dlc = 120 dlls of a game that lasts half of the life of the other ones. Same thing with Diablo. Good thing i didn't get the collectors edition, or i would've been mad that i payed 100 dlls for a game that i played roughly 50 to 60 hrs and got bored.

I just think for this much money, games need a good long life. Take for example L4D and L4d2. Those games are still pretty awesome. I payed full price and they are still releasing content. You can mod the shit out of them and still have a good time cuz the game is fun. It's been more than 3 years, and i have not heard anything about a sequel. Which i guess i know its in development. But no rush to release it for next xmas. To me. its just about quality. Not only in games, but in what i decide to put my money in. I just think its kinda vain of publishers to forget about the important thing, which is to earn money by making quality games. Not make money and making mediocre sequels of games every year.

One thing to remember, is it goes to "BETA" in the fall of next year. It may be a while after that before it's actually released.

The part that bothers me, is they likely took the BF3 developers to start this new version. That means that there are few resources working to improve BF3, which is STILL broken. Hell, I'd be surprised if ANYONE is working on the bugs. On their Facebook page, the cookie cutter response from them is "Be assured, we are still continuing support for BF3. There are people working hard to deliver the futures DLCs". WHAT?! Oh THANK YOU for continuing to develop the DLCs that people have already paid for. But looking at that statement, it appears that they are not continuing development of the code. Only the DLCs.

Also, I think this is why they released premium. By selling premium, they already have all your money for all 5 DLCs. If they had ONLY released those DLCs individually, then fewer people would have bought the final DLC, knowing that BF4 is around the corner.

Finally, I may be wrong, but I thought I had read that CoD has 2 teams working on different releases, and they are basically offset by 2 yrs. That way, when the version from 1 team is released, the other team is half way through their next release. That's how the churn them out so often. Seems to me like DICE has 1 team trying to churn out a game every 2 years.

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DICE is a big studio with a ton of artists. I'm sure they can work on a few different things at once without making either game suffer. They are always hiring a ton of people too.

Endgame isn't released until March next year, which give around 6 months play before the beta for BF4 comes out. BF4 probably wont be out until just before Christmas 2013 or new year 2014, which is over 2 years support for BF3, so I'm really not disappointed with them tbh.

@Rens, Can't wait, man!

This makes the game so much more appealing to me all of a sudden....

1st off before all the rant below: FUCK YEA RENS! that looks amazing, and playing the new CQC map pack is fun as hell gorgeous work all round!

HAHA i love how people call the game broken and make it sound like a total piece of trash or the worst thing to ever happen to their gaming experience. I have had amazing times with BF3 and easily enjoy it as much if not more than BC2 and have played both for hundreds of hours. a broken game by definition would be unplayable....if there are a couple things you don't like about it.........well...thats just like....your opinion man.

people need to get over their sense of entitlement, you are seriously not satisfied with the hundreds of hours of entertainment BF3 has probably given you over the course of 6 months-1 year alone, for 60-100 dollars? better not go see any movies then, that 12 dollars for only 1.5-2 hours of entertainment is a total ripoff! people make it out as if they are forced to buy DLC packs, if you don't like them, or 15 bucks is some insurmountable amount of money to scrounge up for another 20-30 hours of fun atleast, just don't buy them.

Of course EA is going to try to get a huge chunk of the COD market share, video games exist to make money plain and simple. If I was to invest my time into a product, of course I would want to make as much money off it as possible. and with 15+ million copies shipped like Linc mentioned above I bet they are pretty happy with themselves.

So happy to see Frostbite getting to stretch its legs! I remember seeing this slide and thinking, oh man, why can't this be an actual MP map!

new trailer reminds me I suck at Jets. I only put 2 hours out of 200... Choppers I'm fine tho (although abit inaccurate using only keyboard controls)

Yeah ... I was going to come back to this thread today to post the Armored Kill video for Frell. Shouldn't be so cynical. ;)

Frell: Publisher fanboyism is pretty silly - it's the new console fanboyism. You say EA puts pressure on studios while Microsoft doesn't - where's the evidence backing that up?

All publishers are equally good and evil in different ways. I've heard old devs bitch about how Ubisoft treats studios they purchase.