http://www.next-gen.biz/news/next-ge...on-arrive-2012
Ubisoft Montreal has next-gen Xbox devkits; a Sony studio has shifted focus to PS4.
The next gen starts in 2012.
Guess they don't want Nintendo to be first out of the gate this time around.
Does this mean more price cuts for current gen consoles after the holidays i wonder.

Intresting. I guess the 10 year plan didn't work. Anyone know if this will shift how game art is created, like the introduction of normal maps did.

Expect games to have 4-5 years of dev time now... -_____-

saw the title and thought star trek, was very disappointed.

Originally Posted by ES_139

saw the title and thought star trek, was very disappointed.

StarTrek The Next Generation does have a blu ray box set coming out in 2012 i saw,lol

Yea there have been a lot of rumors about the next-gen consoles lately. Just because devs are starting to get early kits doesn't mean we'll see the consoles in 2012 however, so don't get your hopes up just yet.

Also, the "10 year plan" is in reference to how long the system is sold in stores, not how long before a successor is released.

All rumors and speculation. E3 2012 will be when Microsoft or Sony announces anything if at all. Also if they are announced at E3 that gives about a 6month window from announcement to being on store shelf's, not a lot of time to build up hype/justification as why consumers should buy a new console.

i think it's interesting to note that crytek made a claim about the next generation coming in mid-2013 over a year ago in this powerpoint. They went as far as to claim that "The renaissance of graphics will arrive".

New consoles will launch 2013, earliest I'd wager, not next year.

Seriously interested what things will look like though next-gen, audiences demand better looking games so devs will have to get bigger/be allowed more time but the fundamental structure needs to change also IMO.

The usual: the consoles catching up with the current pc hardware, and nintendo catching up with the last generation hardware.

Honestly ill bet on november 2012 as the release. A good hunk of games were finally summed up this year, has to be a reason.

Im not buying any further consoles, money is going into a graphics card that will last me 5 years longer than a console.

New consoles won't come out at 2012. imo.

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd buy anther console either. It really depends on the games and if they are exclusive or not and worth it. I'm with frell on buying a good GPU that will last a long while.

There seems to be a new one of these every single day now, and I'm not expecting it to slow down for the next year. At the end of the day a new console will be announced the months after sales are down, which isn't happening for a while.

In house studios of Sony and Microsoft will have undoubtedly started exploring the next big thing, conceptual discovery and possible future franchises. But they aren't going to make a game within a year.

Its still 2013/2014 in my opinion, only reason rumours have started now is because games take so dam long to make these days and people have started thinking about it.

I doubt the nextgen consoles will be here before 2013.

Originally Posted by frell

A good hunk of games were finally summed up this year, has to be a reason.

Because they were done perhaps? and it's not like there's a lack of upcoming games on the current consoles (Halo 4, Auras Wrath, Twisted Metal, Darksiders 2, Mass Effect 3, Bioshock Infinite, Jourey, Starhawk, Borderlands 2, Soul Calibur V, Final Fantasy XIII-2, etc.)

Originally Posted by chrismaddox3d

The next gen starts in 2012.

Actually hasn't every indication so far been 2014? Next Unreal engine slated for around then, and just because companies are working with next gen dev kits dont mean the games are intended to be released anytime soon

Arriving AT RETAIL late 2012?? Oh Edge, you noobs...

Working with = Figuring things out and making a game with it.... i'd say 2k13-2k14

2016 at the earliest. Probably be Microsoft with Xbox 720 and it'll be glitchy as heck.
MAYBE by then the economy might start turning around and a few people will be able to afford the $700 price tag. Thfffpt :P

Originally Posted by frell

Honestly ill bet on november 2012 as the release. A good hunk of games were finally summed up this year, has to be a reason.

Im not buying any further consoles, money is going into a graphics card that will last me 5 years longer than a console.

What? I've had 3 really badass graphics cards during the period I owned one single 360, and probably like .. 4 computers during the entire xbox 360 lifetime so far!

edit: I spent almost 10 times as much on pc hardware as I did on that one console during the same period!

we all know consoles don't get unvealed until E3 time...

Originally Posted by Xoliul

What? I've had 3 really badass graphics cards during the period I owned one single 360, and probably like .. 4 computers during the entire xbox 360 lifetime so far!

edit: I spent almost 10 times as much on pc hardware as I did on that one console during the same period!

Well you don't HAVE to buy a new card so often, but ya, PC will def. cost you a hell of alot more. I got a nice GPU 3 years ago or so, then got a GTX570 recently, and this is good enough for me for a while. But like you said, I'd prob end up getting another GPU in 2-3 years, overall costing as much as like 3 360s.

My bank account is not yet ready for a new round of consoles.

Would the Wii-U be considered 'next-gen' for Nintendo (as compared to the Wii)?
I wonder what the selling points would be, other than processing power?

Originally Posted by frell

Honestly ill bet on november 2012 as the release. A good hunk of games were finally summed up this year, has to be a reason.

Im not buying any further consoles, money is going into a graphics card that will last me 5 years longer than a console.

halo 4 is for 360 i highly doubt we'll see the new console till atleast late 2013 if not later