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cmtanko
03-22-2012, 11:58 PM
we wanted to make a simple game project, and I was responsible for the environmental and assets making... I am just a modeller, but not a environment artist... These were some of the shot I ended up with , with some downloaded models... I know that was a disaster.
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okay back to the point, after 6 months, I am starting the maps over again... I have watched the tutorial "terrain design in cryEngine".


Can anyone refer me some more links to a good tutorials on
-environment design
-blending between the assets and the terrain better.
-anything that would make a map look better.



thank you... will be waiting for you responses :)

cmtanko
03-23-2012, 12:21 AM
*for some reason, the images dnt load up.. nvrmind thats not imp. anyways

gsokol
03-23-2012, 12:46 AM
*for some reason, the images dnt load up.. nvrmind thats not imp. anyways

Pretty important to see images to help you out if ya ask me :p.

Try uploading your images to an image site, like photobucket or flickr, then post a link to that.

cmtanko
03-23-2012, 01:29 AM
:D srry abt that, okay here are some of the maps, mountains,ruins and some deserts.. Basicaly we want to make a hack and slash game. here you go..http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u_m_P24QeXM/T2wuu6ghtmI/AAAAAAAAAEs/LddCD2CAsv8/s1600/area1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7gwNQ2l3Ik0/T2wu87xk0FI/AAAAAAAAAE8/KOBfTjbQsLA/s1600/area3.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SwvKKETmomQ/T2wvBBgU06I/AAAAAAAAAFE/0fsiPnHIzrE/s1600/area9.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SwvKKETmomQ/T2wvBBgU06I/AAAAAAAAAFE/0fsiPnHIzrE/s1600/area9.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nJ7ULV9QqMM/T2wvFb5nIZI/AAAAAAAAAFM/4l6iDu_9EQQ/s1600/deepJungle2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xEOaiDdm_ek/T2wvLF33ghI/AAAAAAAAAFU/gmVkcrYJeew/s1600/templeArea.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_kB4GVm7jd4/T2wvQCn-TqI/AAAAAAAAAFc/bIEWVywWB-o/s1600/townArea2.jpg

Umar6419
03-23-2012, 04:11 AM
So they are really Nice.. Keep on going...

pthomas1172
03-23-2012, 09:30 AM
its a good start.

- You MUST have reference if your going to do it right. Dig up images of other games and just copy portions you like, Also look at FLICKR for terrain photos.

- study in those pictures how terrain has things that go from BIG to tiny. Big Cliff to med boulders to small rocks to tiny grass to flat dirt.

- Your only going to get a few textures so make them count. redo what you have until it looks right. you'll redo it 10-30+ times based on schedule.

- Tilling textures are a bitch!.. start with a noise texture, get it to tile over the whole map. then make the black a greenish dirt and the white the vegetation. if you want to get advanced... use the noise as a MASK. and then make smaller TILING noises, one as dirt and the other grass.

- look into making cliffs ,boulders and rocks separate models. one of your terrain textures should be a transition texture between the rock model and grass/green texture. also use it to blend with the road / path.

- Buy a program called WORLD MACHINE, it will help a lot. you'll see when you open it.


- play around with VUE if you have time, it has some helpful features.

bk3d
03-23-2012, 10:06 AM
not sure what engine you are using.
But one thing you might want to try is to divide the different areas into its own district instead of one giant land mass. This way you can customize each district to be somewhat unique. Then you can connect areas with maybe a wood bridge... rock bridge.. etc. instead of it all being dirt paths. Might be easier to manage too. More detail on the ground like grass tufts and stones along the paths. Also i would put the temple area at the highest elevation, this could also be used as a landmark. Land marks are good to have so players kinda know where they are in the world.

Hope this helps

cmtanko
03-23-2012, 07:07 PM
thank you everyone,
@bk3d: yes this time, I am spiting 1 map into several small maps.. my system will also feel better..

cmtanko
03-23-2012, 07:11 PM
thanks for the long article, that would surely help


- Tilling textures are a bitch!.. start with a noise texture, get it to tile over the whole map. then make the black a greenish dirt and the white the vegetation. if you want to get advanced... use the noise as a MASK. and then make smaller TILING noises, one as dirt and the other grass.

This one, I dn't got it, noise texture, black a greenish dirt and the white the vegetation, noise as Mask.....
Can you do me a favor of explaining them bit more ? :) that would be great ..

also anything on HOW DO WE BLEND THE MODEL AND THE TERRAIN,. my models also seems popping out instead of blending well...

bk3d
03-23-2012, 10:13 PM
An AO pass on the ground will help. Also getting some blends of some grass to break up the ground. Placing details of rock shrubs and grass around the base of the buildings will help ground the buildings too.

cmtanko
04-15-2012, 05:30 AM
I had been working in the new map, namely the jungle map... Here are some of the snaps, let me know what you think... I want it to be like awesome,but I am out of idea.. plz suggest something....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_pA52bTyZ-M/T4q7Rl8cPrI/AAAAAAAAAFs/JPo6t_BGLdA/s1600/EDITOR+64+2012-04-15+16-56-21-92.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rpqVIK49PTY/T4q7TdbdWQI/AAAAAAAAAF0/hp0oGy61ars/s1600/EDITOR+64+2012-04-15+16-56-48-39.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vL14O88GiQA/T4q7U69ux1I/AAAAAAAAAF8/vqXxt1AL5FE/s1600/EDITOR+64+2012-04-15+16-57-02-86.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lSOBUKa4zvo/T4q7WuaigAI/AAAAAAAAAGE/pxrbxxzfH5E/s1600/EDITOR+64+2012-04-15+16-58-10-99.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-n_4YB1VTfZM/T4q7YREixeI/AAAAAAAAAGM/K6cXQgg-hPc/s1600/EDITOR+64+2012-04-15+16-59-15-11.jpg

Ken Benson
04-15-2012, 05:59 PM
Some things to consider:
Accent colors (lightning bugs, flowers, birds, butterflys ...)
Trail markers
Trail signs
Small camp sites
More foliage
Places of rituals (alters, burial cross, shrines,...)
Scattered bones
Fallen trees/logs
You need large, medium, and small stones
A more brown path since it is so wide
...

These latest shots are looking much better than when you began, keep it up!

cmtanko
04-15-2012, 08:16 PM
Thanks friend :)

1 question, how can we achieve something like this
http://cache.virtualtourist.com/4/2484177-Gunung_Lang_Recreation_Park_Ipoh.jpg
mountain with heavy tress without increasing too much polycount. using of texture doesn't seem right . so how is that done ?

ivanzu
04-15-2012, 11:04 PM
Model a plane and wrap it around the rock and then just put the tree and leaf texture on it probably the best solution if you want to save on poly count,is that area accessible if so its going to look bad from close up so you should try using LODs.

cmtanko
09-30-2012, 09:00 PM
Again your suggestions needed :)

Here is the new map , I worked on .. What do you think ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cq_cgRk_DAo/UGkKi-WAb4I/AAAAAAAAAMw/6cTOn8vlAKA/s1600/img1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j0eMlhthAOw/UGkKs4KbAPI/AAAAAAAAAM4/Kg_hNhLpwEk/s1600/img2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fY-1k-mudes/UGkK0yNtrsI/AAAAAAAAANA/pxT5QmwygNk/s1600/img3.jpg