My WIP character thread

[garriola83]

***update*** 02/28/2013
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8511123350_8c86389341_h.jpg
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i havent been here in a while, but im gonna churn out some stuff for the next few weeks. heres some shots of what ive been doodling with...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6456396653_128c79a402_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6456396969_5d21a14241_b.jpg
heres a base concept that i might do but eventually embellish or add more to
http://www.giancarloarriola.com/female_concept_01.jpg
lemme know if theres anything funny looking or suggestions. thanks!

[Illusive]

her upper lip looks a bit strange to me where it meets the bottom lip

[akacg]

Her eye balls look to big to me. which makes her eye lids look weird in my opinion.
nice sculpt keep it up yo!

[Fred2303]

i like the concept. on the sculpt the eye lid and the jonction betwen upper and lower lips need work try to look at anatomic ref where you see the bones and muscle of the head that helped me alot. body proportions looks good to me.

[garriola83]

ah the bone on the upper eyelids, i see its too pronounced or too bloated...cool cool. im working on the lower lips too

[garriola83]

made some changes to the bone over the eyelid and added more anatomy to the legs and back

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6458173123_b073bc26d3_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6458176761_46469a0466_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6458174383_20a1de0df9_b.jpg

if the mouth still looks funny, lemme know, thanks! maybe i'll start on the clothes tomoro

[garriola83]

more work on it
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6497598055_6c049e0ee4_b.jpg

[garriola83]

just an update
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6502767251_f40a6ed9d1_b.jpg

[garriola83]

more work
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6508480617_9ddb361c23_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6508479419_8329613be7_b.jpg

[JamesWarren]

I'm not the best at giving crits but there are a few things I would like to point out. I think that her forearm has a little too much muscle definition, it makes it look like shes flexing. Her face also doesn't have the same characteristics as the reference, although that may be intentional. Also, some of the straps look like they are fused with the clothing underneath (The dagger and the straps on her thigh). Her but seems a bit flat too.

Hope this helps, keep going man!

[garriola83]

those are good points, i'll keep cranking at it

[ObbieSkinner]

She is so ripped!

[johnnybrach]

Her forearms are a bit too muscular for me, but other than that, I really want to see how you'll approach the texturing part

[SCB]

I think the line crease between her bum and thighs is too defined, almost like the belt is pushing it down alot. Try make the definition more subtle, and give it a rounder look. Here is a good example (I'll hyperlink it so it doesnt take up too much thread space)
"possiblyNSFW" (http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/VIDA-GUERRA-TIGHT-WHITE-PANTS.jpg)

[garriola83]

I think the line crease between her bum and thighs is too defined, almost like the belt is pushing it down alot. Try make the definition more subtle, and give it a rounder look. Here is a good example (I'll hyperlink it so it doesnt take up too much thread space)
"possiblyNSFW" (http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/VIDA-GUERRA-TIGHT-WHITE-PANTS.jpg)

good call, i'll work on that a bit more

[garriola83]

more work from what everyone suggested
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6519998951_21238f933b_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6520000699_364dd74f8a_b.jpg

[garriola83]

last work until low poly
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6526173099_4615f80d6f_b.jpg

[SCB]

Looking good! The arms are looking alot nicer, and the softer transition between her butt cheeks look more realistic (and not so skin tight!). Good choice taking out the boot straps, they might not have translated so well on the low poly.

[garriola83]

i was gonna have the boot straps to be floaters, but not gonna be baked on. i was just adding some stuff on the high poly to see the silhouette with them floaters on. is it not a good idea/ concept to have them bootstraps at all? i thought it would be a good way to change up the silhouette on the lower legs

[garriola83]

started on a low poly head
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7016/6562153121_be325424a1_b.jpg

[garriola83]

more wires
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6562304837_d339317066_b.jpg

[garriola83]

unwrapping 90% done, just gotta rearrange some stuff
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6571287701_b145476c93_b.jpg

[Macattackk]

wait.. is this supposed to be a game model? your modeling out a lot of stuff that should be in the normal map and the hair is very high poly. well theres just extra edge loops in a lot of places.

[MEGALOS]

The facetopology looks bad man to be honest. I can see you made the face out of a box, because now it just looks like a box in a shape and few circles around the eyes and mouth.

Take a look at this example and how its devided in groups; http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/headtopology.jpg/

Hope this works!

[garriola83]

wait.. is this supposed to be a game model? your modeling out a lot of stuff that should be in the normal map and the hair is very high poly. well theres just extra edge loops in a lot of places.

ok i'll try and reduce this as much as i can

[garriola83]

The facetopology looks bad man to be honest. I can see you made the face out of a box, because now it just looks like a box in a shape and few circles around the eyes and mouth.

Take a look at this example and how its devided in groups; http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/headtopology.jpg/

Hope this works!

it wasnt made from a box, i used polydraw on it. ive maintined loops around the mouth, eyes and nose, youre focusing too much on the quads on the cheeks. i used this as a guide
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90982&page=3

btw on the example on the link you gave, i totally disagree with the edge loops on the cheek, it shouldnt loop like that at all. too many 3 edge verts on the cheeks

i'll reduce the amount of loops and round out some forms but ive already tested this out and it seems to be a really clean unwrap. i'll work on it some more.

[garriola83]

i reworked the head, reduced it and made it look less "boxy"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6580384177_3fb6bdab55_b.jpg
off to reduce the rest of the character

[garriola83]

some more work, just reduction, not of to uvw mapping
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6576237195_16c9413d37_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6576240117_22df6dc21f_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6576242435_7b50ab9f4f_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6576245291_e079f0b67d_b.jpg

[garriola83]

testing the normal bump
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6578504435_7ef83db4dd_z.jpg

[papagersi]

nice!! I think her hip needs little and small folds cuz that looks a bit tight

[garriola83]

i have a couple above the big belt/under the corset thingy...maybe below the belt?

[garriola83]

still working on the textures...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6626903169_299f2286e0_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6626903051_b57f4d3578_b.jpg
still got some work to do

[garriola83]

just an update
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6638217749_e870f9c591_b.jpg
i think im almost done

[garriola83]

updates
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6664835187_326183b190_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6664837267_0438b3bc59_b.jpg

[chrisradsby]

Eyes need more work honestly. They are very important on female-characters. I kind-off feel like the arms should be a wee bit longer as well. I really like the texturing. The detail on the pants look really nice. Good work!

[Vorge]

Hey man there is a lot of nice stuff going on here. I did a quit doodle for you that may help sell the eyes a bit more. They seem rather big honestly, I would probably shrink them a tad, but either way, using an alpha plane with a drop shadow will help recess them into the lids. Quick paintover to help illustrate:

[SCB]

The character is looking very nice so far, and the textures are working really well. I think you need to adjust the pose, her right elbow is too high. The arrow should be looking upwards at a slight angle and should be no higher than her chin. Have a look at olympic archers for references. Also the bow could use an 'arrow shelf' to steady the arrow. This could even be an extra strap of leather wrapped around that area.

[garriola83]

good stuff i'll add those changes along with more stuff

[garriola83]

small update, thanks for the suggestions!
-added eye lid shadow in the eye
-scaled the eyes smaller, tho squinting added to the effect
-changed the lighting to show more, less obscure
-changed the weights on the shoulder
-changed the thumb placement
-added a basic face rig, no phonemes tho
-adjusted the pose more, i will work on it more tho for the final renders

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6692637489_ceff4e8bb9_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6692619009_3d1ddcdea9_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6692625749_8c43043db2_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6692623157_762917d14e_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6692615233_222206ce99_b.jpg

i'll start texturing the weapons, then do some final viewport grabs, then off to the next character

[SnaFuBAR]

arrow head is on the wrong side (should be on the left of the bow) and the arrow needs a support.

[garriola83]

arrow head is on the wrong side (should be on the left of the bow) and the arrow needs a support.

thanks, i'll do those changes soon

[garriola83]

i think im done with this character, off to another one
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6724711375_b60fdb543c_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6724710041_c9135d3151_b.jpg

[EVIL]

Added this comment to the what are you working on thread, but maybe I can better post it here :)

Hmm, her expression is a bit weird. it currently says

" you're a meany!"

instead of expressing a strong angry female.
I think if you lift the corners of her mouth a bit and tweak her bottom lip so it doesn't look like she is pouting, it would look much more convincing,

besides that, her pose feels very stiff and unnatural, the straightened back has something to do with that, posing her upper body in a very award position. I'd suggest looking up more reference of people stalking while holding a bow or something similar.


edit: oh, I overlooked your reply in the what are you working on thread.

yeah,, well.. .. bump! :P

[garriola83]

Added this comment to the what are you working on thread, but maybe I can better post it here :)

Hmm, her expression is a bit weird. it currently says

" you're a meany!"

instead of expressing a strong angry female.
I think if you lift the corners of her mouth a bit and tweak her bottom lip so it doesn't look like she is pouting, it would look much more convincing,

besides that, her pose feels very stiff and unnatural, the straightened back has something to do with that, posing her upper body in a very award position. I'd suggest looking up more reference of people stalking while holding a bow or something similar.


edit: oh, I overlooked your reply in the what are you working on thread.

yeah,, well.. .. bump! :P

thanks man. yeah i made those changes and should be on the website soon. changed the pose too she leaning more.

started on a new project
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6752641607_5a1ba08e88_z.jpg

[Apel]

Nice character, looking alive.

[garriola83]

blockout of the xenomorph, might go to zbrush soon, maybe tweak a few things here and there first...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6769748447_aa97cec612_z.jpg

[garriola83]

practice
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6914738931_dde66da77f_z.jpg

[garriola83]

another practice
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6774974132_6baee4eb1c_z.jpg

[garriola83]

xenomorph WIP
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6922567507_f8720d57d9_b.jpg

[garriola83]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6789586148_2de6451346_b.jpg

[garriola83]

practice
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6796874206_2355101a93_b.jpg

[garriola83]

back from vacation...
time some updates

899 tris, 1024x1024 diffuse, normals, specs. this is all screencapped from the 3ds max viewport with xoliul shader materials and some post processing in the viewport
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7502690222_cd7e4f290c_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8434/7502690788_37054dd805_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/7502690316_a241ddc6e4_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7485880864_1db0cdab85.jpg
http://giancarloarriola.com/turnaround.gif

[garriola83]

re-renders
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7546581098_4572c53e08_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8141/7546191226_e41a65be50_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7546222794_f3648e44fb_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7124/7546149060_8c343ca1c9.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8001/7546264118_0db64897f5_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7546146272_f8ff481ac1.jpg

[garriola83]

currently working on
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5342/7364861434_7072f5799d_b.jpg

close up of face
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7312610206_814bb922d7_b.jpg

[garriola83]

***update*** 08/16/2012
Finished
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8305/7870812316_3ee3f4b8af_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8425/7793485298_dcdca711d8_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7793143964_515e39de00_h.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/7792896884_9b9fbcd0e6_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/7797627186_ab82aa6ef7_z.jpg

[butt_sahib]

SICK work as usual man. Loving every character
The areanet art test looks awesome, one of the best ive come across.

Those re-renders are great aswell. Your portfolio images were kind of dark as far as o can remember and the new presentation shots are looking so much better

And that art test just made me want to work on something similar ;)

Thanks for the inspiration!!

[Lavitz]

Awesome I love seeing character threads, definitely a subscribe.
All your characters are consistent and clean.

The space chick is coming out awesome, are the legs fully mechanical for space flight (like Starfox was conceptualized)?
Subscribed and can't wait to see more.

[garriola83]

@butt-sahib: thanks, man. yeah work on something similar, and keep pushing yourself as well.

@lavitz: thanks man, that means a lot. the space chick is actually a pilot/rider for my friend's jet bike, lol.

just a quickie
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8429/7839037942_1eb7a40899_b.jpg

[garriola83]

Still here
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8114989438_8deb977d1f_b.jpg

[almighty_gir]

basic polypaint, i think its time for a low poly and bake
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8489/8163102685_3f84a5d974_b.jpg

this is so good man, such a leap from your last piece.

[garriola83]

tweaking it
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8507516377_ffefd78b1b_h.jpg

[garriola83]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8511123350_8c86389341_h.jpg

[garriola83]

calling this done, onto more polysculpts
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8527640492_c752d43193_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8527641230_a4e3b4b9f7_b.jpg