The Man of Steel, Zack Snyder's superman film

[Shiniku]

First picture just got released.

See it here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168111-first-look-at-henry-cavill-as-superman-in-man-of-steel)

Why else is excited?

Zack Snyder's shaping up to be one of my favorite directors, and with Chris Nolan's involvement I'm sold.

[Hugh]

chris nolan left that project ages ago. Its just Synder and nolan's son I believe now.

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/manofsteelsupermanbig.jpg

[Shiniku]

I know Nolan's not really actively doing anything on it now, but he had worked on the story initially and I'm sure they didn't just throw that out completely.

[skylebones]

I like the design of the suit, the cape coming out looks nice, and it also looks like the red undies may be gone. But I'm not so sure about the scales.

And I hope they aren't going the dark and edgy route. Superman doesn't need to be dark and edgy.

[The Mad Artist]

i like that the S is nice and big. That's just not the face I think of when I think of Superman. I still think that Alex Ross' Supes is the best and wish they would get someone in that vein

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2011/03/alex-ross-superman.jpg

And out of all characters that don't need an "edgy" makeover, Superman is at the top of that list. That doesn't mean you can't have edginess, or modern sensibilities, but the character himself shouldn't be like that. I always thought that the story "What's so funny about Truth Justice and the American Way?" is miles away the BEST Superman story ever, and would make a fantastic movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_So_Funny_About_Truth,_Justice_%26_the_Ameri can_Way%3F

Marvel's Captain America movie showed how you can have a character that is the ultimate boy scout, good guy, whatever, and still make a great movie without the character coming off as lame or preachy. Just hope that they keep that in mind here.

[Andreas]

Yeah they never seem to cast someone that looks like Superman... and that CG vault looks very fake too. Not a fan of the scaly suit either, isn't it supposed to be made from a quilt that was in his pod or something? I guess they are going for the harder wearing look so it doesnt rip too much in action. Looking forward to a trailer. I would love a two-part Doomsday movie, with Supes dying at the end of the first one.

[JacqueChoi]

The flaw of superman is that he is so completely unrelateable.


Batman was orphaned as a child, his primary character motivation is revenge.
Spiderman was orphaned as a child, and was directly responsible for the death of his uncle. He is driven by guilt.
Wolverine hates everyone. Has no idea who he is, where he came from.
Rorschach is an insane existentialist


Superman? Well, he's just good. Which is completely boring. Especially where depth in character development comes from some kind of inner change. IN Superman stories, the world tends to undergo that change, therefore nobody feels a strong connection with the character.


The best Superman stories completely deconstruct him and build him into something else.

- 'Red Son'
- 'Kingdom Come'
- 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow',


And the other issue with Superman, is that we don't need an introduction to who he is. EVERYONE on this planet knows exactly who he is, and how he got here. Focus on an actual story arc, not his origin, or who lois lane is, or how he discovered his powers.


And please not another crappy movie with Lex Luthor.

[Ace-Angel]

So for all the commotion Hollywood and their stars stirred about stale sales of their sodding revenues, they're not only taking a little too many hints of robot designs from games, but also, the entire scale/nano-suit design for their heroes.

Honestly, first Spiderman, then Thor, now Superman, who's next? Batman?

[ScudzAlmighty]

to me looks more like a variation on the way the Returns suit (http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/textures.jpg) was covered in tiny S's to visually break up the material, just on a larger scale. What bugs me though is that the S shield looks like it's made of Playdough, I know it needs to be a softer material in order to work at that scale (over top of muscle I mean) but the last one just looked so much cooler.

as far as the whole Darker Look, at least in this scene where he's stopping a bank robbery
I thinks it's more of a "where do you think you're going?" moment as opposed to a "here, let me get the door for you ma'am"


oh and Jaque, Supe's is an orphan too, so's ya know.

[Hugh]

character development 101. Fucked up child hood equals drama. Or a significant event where a person must rise above their element.

[moose]

hrm, that image looks kinda blah.... Whats with the untextured door? The new suit is interesting, almost like people realized after Thor that lots of noisy details on shiny clothing look cool in HD... or the people who did the new spiderman suit also did this one, or are friends with the people who made the spiderman suit.

I hope its not another origin story. Super hero movies need to take a note from James Bond... the things we love don't need to be re-explained to us every time a new actor is introduced.

[Ace-Angel]

I agree, lets us stop with the origins fad for once and all, if the movie had a origins episode or anything like that within the past 10-15 years, I'm pretty sure just giving us flashbacks will be enough.

All those that complain about 'lack of motivation' in the movie if we don't spend 30 minutes explaining said origin can go and choke about how King Kong was a spoiler movie.

[Ganemi]

Batman was orphaned as a child, his primary character motivation is revenge.
Spiderman was orphaned as a child, and was directly responsible for the death of his uncle. He is driven by guilt.
Wolverine hates everyone. Has no idea who he is, where he came from.
Rorschach is an insane existentialist

Rorschach isn't insane, just uncompromising and antisocial. :O
And I'm not so sure Batman's motivated by revenge.


But what the hell is with his jawline in that pic? Ridiculous. I never did like the blue boy. : /

[Saman]

I like Superman. In the movie from the 80s he's somewhat bullied in high school and he seems pretty insecure as Clark Kent even later on during his Daily Planet period. Maybe the latter is just an act but I don't think he's any more boring than Bruce Wayne is as Batman, they both fight crime because they simply don't like it. Superman is a nice sympathising guy, of course I can relate to him. Badasses who fight and kill just for the sake of it(or some lame excuse like revenge, freedom or justice) on the other hand, no.

Finally a Superman movie with a villain who's a kryptonian. I'm getting pretty tired of Lex Luthor. Kneel before Zod!

[DeeKei]

Well, Superman is suppose to portray the proper, archetypical superhero, since he was the first one.

anyways, i will wait this was bated breath, but superman has this terrible curse of making crappy movies.

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

do not want. If you go watch sucker punch and when you see someone put superman in there, and you'll see what you are going to get.

[DeeKei]

do not want. If you go watch sucker punch and when you see someone put superman in there, and you'll see what you are going to get.


But what if you watch 300 and put superman there?

THIS. IS. SMALLVILLE!!

[oXYnary]

Superman? Well, he's just good. Which is completely boring. Especially where depth in character development comes from some kind of inner change. IN Superman stories, the world tends to undergo that change, therefore nobody feels a strong connection with the character.

You haven't read much have you? Look up All Star Superman. You can have a good guy character and still have great stories without all the angst. Hell, by your logic RoboAtomic should be boring. But its not.


Anyhow, I wonder if Lex is missing partly because the ongoing legal battle with Simon & Schuster?

The real Lex, the business tycoon, would be a great adversary..... I still want to see Brainiac though.

[Firebert]

the first thing i thought was the door looked absolutely horrible and ridiculously CG.
i didn't even look at superman.

gotta agree about the face. not gonna bother looking up who the actor is, but right off the bat he reminded me of Diedrich Bader from the Drew Carey Show.

[Mrskullface]

I hope this reboot is better than the last reboot where he fought a big ol rock!

[Shiniku]

I hope this reboot is better than the last reboot where he fought a big ol rock!

That wasn't a reboot, that was a continuation of the christopher reeves movies. And for that, it was pretty good. Sadly, no one but the director actually wanted a continuation of those old movies..


And I don't care if Lex could be done well as a villain, movie-makers have had enough tries with him. I'm done and bored. I want to see Metallo or Darkseid or some other villain the general population might not be too familiar with.

[Jackablade]

His suit looks like it's made of carbon fibre. I guess it stops it from getting full of holes when he's deflecting bullets with his pectorals of steel.

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

yes this shot looks like him..

http://mimg.ugo.com/201008/56494/cuts/diedrich-bader_480x360.jpg


gotta agree about the face. not gonna bother looking up who the actor is, but right off the bat he reminded me of Diedrich Bader from the Drew Carey Show.

[Ganemi]

His face looks like it was made of carbon...

ass.

No, wait. Let me try that again.

[Ace-Angel]

I just took another look in the picture and...is the background CG?

[LRoy]

How many times are they going to reboot the same franchises.

Though if they did I suppose we wouldn't have this masterpeice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMD2TwRvuoU

[DeeKei]

I just took another look in the picture and...is the background CG?

sure looks like it or else the propmakers did a real crappy job on making the iron bars look like it experienced a massive explosion.

[vofff]

How many times are they going to reboot the same franchises.

Its money!

[JacqueChoi]

You haven't read much have you? Look up All Star Superman. You can have a good guy character and still have great stories without all the angst. Hell, by your logic RoboAtomic should be boring.

I didn't say 'boring'. I said just completely lacking any depth. Like most Tim Burton movies (with the exception of Big Fish).

Depth and believability is the difference between Christopher Nolan's Batman, and Joel Schumacher's.


All Star Superman?
The one where he has 1 year to live?

That's a pretty drastic character change dontcha think?




Synopsis of EVERY superman movie to date:

Some monster, or thing, or person is killing lots of people without motivation, other than they are simply 'evil'. Superman saves the day.

WOW! Great story! Incredible film making! Lets see Lex Luthor do that again!!!





How about this? Monster/Thing/Person kills Lois Lane, kills Ma and Pa Kent, Holds The last city of Krypton hostage, while his identity is revealed, and everyone he's ever known and loved is getting murdered left and right.


For the first time in his life, he has to battle with his ideals, and resort to killing people. To torturing. Which causes the government to issue a warrant for his arrest.

Motivated by revenge, the public turns on him.




Oh right, Hollywood doesn't have the balls to do that. He will be the same goodie goodie throughout the movie, and he will save Lois Lane, and Metropolis from whatever evil force there is.

[The Mad Artist]

The flaw of superman is that he is so completely unrelateable.


The best Superman stories completely deconstruct him and build him into something else.

- 'Red Son'
- 'Kingdom Come'
- 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow',




I would look into "What's so Funny about Truth Justice and the American way" and also Brian Azzarello's "For Tommorow" arc that he did with Jim Lee.

The fact that Superman is the archetypal superhero and not full of angst or anger is what makes him not boring and stand out. It separates him from all of that. He's hard to write because he's so strong, but in both of those stories I recommended the drama comes less from the opposing force and more to do with Superman's ideals.

Having him resort to killing like in your idea destroys the character and makes everything interesting about him go by the wayside.

[moose]

Jacque: lol you just described Jack Bauer. Thats it!! Kiefer Sutherland needs to be superman now!

I like the Superman movies, and hope this new one will be good. Just think they skimped on this shot. Would be great if they made him more like the Samaritan, but at that point it'd just be better to make an Astro City movie :)

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

I enjoyed Kingdom Come.. /shrug

[oXYnary]

I didn't say 'boring'. I said just completely lacking any depth. Like most Tim Burton movies (with the exception of Big Fish).

Depth and believability is the difference between Christopher Nolan's Batman, and Joel Schumacher's.


All Star Superman?
The one where he has 1 year to live?

That's a pretty drastic character change dontcha think?

Thats whats amazing. He didn't change. He did everything he could in the time he had left. But he didn't get depressed. He kept to his character and ideals. Its what made it such a strong read (and a good animated film btw).

[Jesse Moody]

Man if they did a Red Son series of movies it would be ACE!!!!

Russian Superman, Batman as a terrorist. COMPLETE WIN!!!

[skankerzero]

Christopher Nolan hasn't left the film. He's still acting producer unless something was announced that I missed.

[Hugh]

Christopher Nolan hasn't left the film. He's still acting producer unless something was announced that I missed.

http://screenrant.com/christoper-nolan-superman-batman-dark-knight-rises-mikee-90198/

[skankerzero]

http://screenrant.com/christoper-nolan-superman-batman-dark-knight-rises-mikee-90198/

ah ok. that totally passed me somehow.

[Jeremy Wright]

I bet there'll be some slow-mo-pan-around+quick-speed-up shots. Does anybody like this guy's movies?

Also, what is everyone's opinion about All Star Superman? I liked it, personally.

[skankerzero]

I personally love Zack Snyder's movies.

[Saman]

In case you guys have missed it, some new pics of Superman;
http://socialitelife.com/henry-cavill-shoots-man-of-steel-in-vancouver-photos-10-2011

[low odor]

ah..so they are going with the lesser known hobo superman storyline

[Saman]

Some more older pics;
http://www.chud.com/65700/supermans-new-get-up-is-no-hobo-suit/

Would be cool if Clark Kent would be a hobo in this movie, not really sure if he is.

[ScudzAlmighty]

maybe its just a wacky "I'm not really who you think I am" celebrity beard that he glues on so people pretend not to recognise him off camera?
I dunno know, Hobo-clark seems like it'd be pushing just a tad too far from the concept for me, but I've yet to be disapointed with Snyders work so I'll wait for the finals instead of judging a wip... ... on a board that's all about judging wip's...

[skankerzero]

or course there was a time in Superman's life where he traveled the world to find himself before fully becoming Superman.

This could be that.

[Jesse Moody]

oh how it would be so awesome if they did a movie based off the Red Sun graphic novel. Now that would be amazing!!!

Russian Supes, batman as a terrorist. PURE WIN!!

[Jackablade]

Some more older pics;
http://www.chud.com/65700/supermans-new-get-up-is-no-hobo-suit/

Would be cool if Clark Kent would be a hobo in this movie, not really sure if he is.
The resulting nerd rage could, if suitably harnessed, power a sizable country.

[Saman]

or course there was a time in Superman's life where he traveled the world to find himself before fully becoming Superman.

This could be that.

Yeah, that sounds more logical.

The resulting nerd rage could, if suitably harnessed, power a sizable country.

Hahah, yeah. Not really sure how they would solve the Clark Kent/Lois Lane relation either. Not that they would have a relationship but I doubt Lois Lane would have anything to do with a hobo. She's usually somewhat shallow.

[dustinbrown]

I really, REALLY do not like that costume. Classic suit FTW.

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/32491L.jpg

[Bigjohn]

What's strange about that video-game-esque costume is that it looks all industrial-made, and yet I'm pretty sure his mom made it in her spare time in her home in Kansas (or wherever he's from). So what then? His mom has military suit-making experience using cutting-edge materials?

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

They've said it was with him in the ship this time around, and will most likely hold up to the alien abilities they have on Krypton.

What's strange about that video-game-esque costume is that it looks all industrial-made, and yet I'm pretty sure his mom made it in her spare time in her home in Kansas (or wherever he's from). So what then? His mom has military suit-making experience using cutting-edge materials?

[Mcejn]

If they can match or surpass this, then I'll be content:

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/All-Star-Superman-DVD-Blu-ray-box-art.jpg

(Yeah, I know some of you hardcores probably hate this shit) :)

[skankerzero]

hardcore nothing. All Star Superman is as hardcore as it gets since it references lots of silver and golden age things.

[Rwolf]

Hope I'll get to work on it before my contract is up! lol.

[pior]

How about this? Monster/Thing/Person kills Lois Lane, kills Ma and Pa Kent, Holds The last city of Krypton hostage, while his identity is revealed, and everyone he's ever known and loved is getting murdered left and right.


Sounds exactly like the boring recent batman flicks hehe.

Kick-Ass > Superman anyways. It was probably the only superhero worth watching lately.

[Hugh]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/superman-shirtless-01.jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/superman-shirtless-02.jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/superman-shirtless-03.jpg

[oXYnary]

They don't allow hotlinking. For those that can't see, its a Shirtless Superman Actor.


I don't really like Snyders work. Overuse of CG, slow motion, and limited color palettes. So I am afraid of this film.

[Saman]

He looks like some kind of spartan superman in those last pictures.
The all-star superman movie is if anything a great fan-service in my opinion. It had lots of characters from the comics as opposed to all these new movies where they sort of introduce the characters with each film.
I'm not too sure about this movie either. I liked Watchmen, Snyder's dark style fits that movie pretty well. He's pretty good at following comic book stories too so there is a chance this movie will be good.
Kick-ass had a good idea(the comic) but the movie execution was just meh.

[skankerzero]

It had lots of characters from the comics as opposed to all these new movies where they sort of introduce the characters with each film.

You'll have to elaborate on this because i'm pretty confused.

[Saman]

You'll have to elaborate on this because i'm pretty confused.

Sorry, that reply was a bit rushed. I'm talking about reboots, tv-series and what not where they introduce Lex Luthor and Clark Kent for people not familiar with these characters.
The all-star Superman movie has characters like Samson, Bar-el and Solaris just showing up, without longer introductions as fans are probably familiar with them.
I'm not really sure what Mcejn meant by hardcore but I think All-star superman is a true fan-service movie, it's aimed towards people who are familiar with the Superman universe and characters. This as opposed to some high-budget hollywood movies where there isn't much room for introducing more than one or two new villains(or heroes), as they're aiming for a different audience; people not so familiar with the franchise.

[skankerzero]

Sorry, that reply was a bit rushed. I'm talking about reboots, tv-series and what not where they introduce Lex Luthor and Clark Kent for people not familiar with these characters.
The all-star Superman movie has characters like Samson, Bar-el and Solaris just showing up, without longer introductions as fans are probably familiar with them.
I'm not really sure what Mcejn meant by hardcore but I think All-star superman is a true fan-service movie, it's aimed towards people who are familiar with the Superman universe and characters. This as opposed to some high-budget hollywood movies where there isn't much room for introducing more than one or two new villains(or heroes), as they're aiming for a different audience; people not so familiar with the franchise.

i took his statement as the hardcore Superman fans not liking All Star Superman. I think All Star Superman is totally aimed at the hardcore and alienates the 'casual fan' for the reasons you stated.

I love that awesome story though.

[ScudzAlmighty]

Teaser trailer is out,

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/ymovies-6393699/man-of-steel-trailer-1a-30051313.html

[Bigjohn]

What the shit... is it just me, or is that the music from Lord of the Rings?

[PhattyEwok]

Yeah the music's from LOTR. The Gates of Something can't remember. Saw the trailer at Batman premiere. Was friggin awesome. Probly only time the audience was completely silent.

[Marine]

There's two versions, with different voice-overs
Jor-El

Jonathan Kent

Like the look of it, doesn't look like Snyder's usual stuff, probably saving all that for the action scenes.

[oXYnary]

Please for the love of God, don't make this one of Snyders usual s l o w m o t i o n bonanzas. Watchmen was boring to watch in part because of this. While 300 it was painful.

[Mask_Salesman]

One thing that bothers me, something that we can all relate to; in any game when we reach god status, what happens? What do we do? I tend to find I lose a lack of interest in the world, the state of affairs in the world, the npc's become insignificant ants that I could scarcely care for or serve as light entertainment for my every whim. I disconnect from the world, become a recluse, all quests and ideals of my former character become dull trivial matters, a depressive shroud envelopes that persona, and I begin to question my existence in that world..

No opposition could really pose much of a threat, I mean I am thankful that they potentially saw that and felt the need to bring in other kryptonians. Although the only other foreseeable course I can predict for a Hollywood film version of superman would be a craptacular display of caught emotion where Louis or some relation is cause for him to make some decision between them and the world.

Altho the trailer does give me hope that they may avoid catastrophe but I do doubt anything seriously innovative to the classic superman story will arise in a time where profit safety dictates constant reboots.

[cptSwing]

Time for a movie about the Death of Superman methinks. Including a "true-er" version of Steel!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/John_Henry_Irons_as_Steel.jpg

Black dude in massive armor and a big effin' hammer. Teenage Nerdgasm.

[Saman]

@cptSwing: So something more towards this?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8VwwSk4IxY8/Td7iQ7q1jqI/AAAAAAAAANM/bdRSoalDcYo/s1600/marvel-superhero-60-s-captain-america-ironman-thor-hulk-d3fa5.jpg

[cptSwing]

Apart from the hammer, uh no. ;-)

[Shiniku]

Time for a movie about the Death of Superman methinks. Including a "true-er" version of Steel!

Black dude in massive armor and a big effin' hammer. Teenage Nerdgasm.

We already had that movie, sadly:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/TiiR27/steel.jpg

[Marine]

something awesome from the jor-el trailer, they're using lines from all-star superman :D

http://i.imgur.com/L4pwQ.jpg

[cptSwing]

Shiniku: Yeah, but they ripped him pretty much out of the Superman context though, didn't they? And I've never watched a movie with Shaq, all this post-modern ironic consumption be damned..

[Jeremy Tabor]

What's up with the two contrails coming off him in the flying sequence at the end??? I was talking with a friend whose dad is a pilot about this earlier, and he explained that it can be caused by rapid pressure changes (normally around the edges of the wings. //EDIT: wingtip vortices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingtip_vortices)) and not just just an engine related thing like I had thought, but then why two individual contrails? What is jutting out of his streamlined flight posture to cause such a pressure change? His feet?

A huuuuge case of nitpicking, i know, but as soon as I saw that I said to myself, "does he have two jet engines stashed under his cape?" It just looks a little funny to me.

The sonic boom is a nice touch tho. I remember Kevin Smith's script for the since-canceled 90's superman flick with Nick Cage (the horror!) advocated for the depiction of a sonic boom upon take-off. I'm glad that some of those neat little ideas didn't die with that debacle of a production.

[Sukotto]

One thing that bothers me, something that we can all relate to; in any game when we reach god status, what happens? What do we do? I tend to find I lose a lack of interest in the world, the state of affairs in the world, the npc's become insignificant ants that I could scarcely care for or serve as light entertainment for my every whim. I disconnect from the world, become a recluse, all quests and ideals of my former character become dull trivial matters, a depressive shroud envelopes that persona, and I begin to question my existence in that world..

No opposition could really pose much of a threat, I mean I am thankful that they potentially saw that and felt the need to bring in other kryptonians. Although the only other foreseeable course I can predict for a Hollywood film version of superman would be a craptacular display of caught emotion where Louis or some relation is cause for him to make some decision between them and the world.

Altho the trailer does give me hope that they may avoid catastrophe but I do doubt anything seriously innovative to the classic superman story will arise in a time where profit safety dictates constant reboots.

Exactly why Superman is one of my least favorite superheroes. He has no weaknesses(save for Kryptonite which is exceedingly rare obviously) and is uber powerful. The only way to make him interesting was to make him an orphan

[PhattyEwok]

He has quite a few but his biggest weakness's aren't really grounded in reality so it often doesn't come across well in the movies. Magic being one of the biggest ones and Red Sun Radiation.

[GarageBay9]

He has quite a few but his biggest weakness's aren't really grounded in reality so it often doesn't come across well in the movies. Magic being one of the biggest ones and Red Sun Radiation.

...neither are things that mortal humans can relate to easily.

The things that make Batman and Spider-Man so popular are that they are, for all intents and purposes, human. They may be extremely smart, extremely skilled, or have acquired some superhuman powers, but deep down they are still human with human psyches and flaws and fears and weaknesses. Especially Batman, who is basically the poster child for "dealing with childhood trauma the Wrong Way".

[cryrid]

Just saw those teaser trailers, well I'm excited : D

[Saman]

Superman being overpowerful isn't something that bothers me, as long as the antagonist is equally or more powerful. I've seen countless films where the protagonist is mortal but comes across as immortal because of his/her/it's enemies' incompetence or lack of strength. I can't relate to any superheroes because they all have super powers, even Batman is super crafty and incredibly strong for a human being(even though those are not technically super powers). What I on the other hand need is some sort of strong opposition in order to get some excitement, not just some muscly tough guy destroying lots of enemies without even getting a scratch. Superman gets beaten up in at least two feature films, sometimes pretty badly.

[PhattyEwok]

...neither are things that mortal humans can relate to easily.

The things that make Batman and Spider-Man so popular are that they are, for all intents and purposes, human. They may be extremely smart, extremely skilled, or have acquired some superhuman powers, but deep down they are still human with human psyches and flaws and fears and weaknesses. Especially Batman, who is basically the poster child for "dealing with childhood trauma the Wrong Way".

I completely agree. I feel like Superman isn't relatable cause he isn't human. Not because he doesn't have weakness though.

[Mask_Salesman]

Superman does have relatable traits tho, he's lazy and selfish;

He does the bare minimum as a super hero, stopping petty crime such as bank robbers and extremely localised organised crime & singular villains. All through feats of strength which is incredibly easy for him.
When he could use his powers to better the entire globe, rather than a single city's law enforcement.
He could stop nuclear war, help create a sustainable energy source numerous ways, extreme orbital solar energy station, no more need for costly space ships to build orbital stations, there's also his heat ray eyes, he could super heat some diamonds he's created through hand compression of coal, that would then bounce those laser eye beams around and focus them, multiplying it to a crazy amount of energy usable in fusion. Or he could even go to the extreme in regards to fusion seeing as he can fly to the sun.

When does he ever do anything for more than a couple thousand people?
What a dick lol.

Btw my scientific knowledge of the different types and methods of fusion may be alil off hahaha ;P


He'll definitely need other kryptonians about to make it interesting...

[MatOaf]

Supes is actually my favourite comic book character; I'm looking forward to this film. Though why do they have to use Zod? I concur that he's one of the more "cooler" villains but not really one of the more interesting ones.

People state that they find it hard to emphasise or relate to Superman though the story of being an adopted child is a story that many can relate to and should be seen as one of the primary links to establish that connection between him and the audience.

There are some elements that I liked from the trailers it seems he's wayward and appears to be struggling to establish his identity or his place in the world which is cool.

Funnily enough the slow motion scenes may actually work here as Superman operates at high speeds so it would make sense to slow the pace of the action down so that the audience can absorb and comprehend what's going on in more clarity.

The Eradicator would have been a better villain as from a symbolic perspective it's Clark's heritage confronting him in a very direct way which could help the audience understand a bit more about the culture and society from which Superman was spawned from. I suppose Zod fulfills that agenda to some extent but I really would have preferred a fresh villian to be introduced.

In some respects this could represent that he’s rejecting his heritage to some extent for a more Earthling/human ideology, thus cementing him in some respects as a protector of Earth.

I hope this films really does well…..It’s been a long time since we had a good Superman film.

All Star Superman was good though Lex Luthor: man of steel is really good also. I felt it really elevatd the tension between the two powerhouses.

[oXYnary]

Superman does have relatable traits tho, he's lazy and selfish;

He does the bare minimum as a super hero, stopping petty crime such as bank robbers and extremely localised organised crime & singular villains. All through feats of strength which is incredibly easy for him.
When he could use his powers to better the entire globe, rather than a single city's law enforcement.
He could stop nuclear war, help create a sustainable energy source numerous ways, extreme orbital solar energy station, no more need for costly space ships to build orbital stations, there's also his heat ray eyes, he could super heat some diamonds he's created through hand compression of coal, that would then bounce those laser eye beams around and focus them, multiplying it to a crazy amount of energy usable in fusion. Or he could even go to the extreme in regards to fusion seeing as he can fly to the sun.

When does he ever do anything for more than a couple thousand people?
What a dick lol.

Btw my scientific knowledge of the different types and methods of fusion may be alil off hahaha ;P


He'll definitely need other kryptonians about to make it interesting...


Actually what you say is exactly why those who think superman is too powerful and cant relate miss. He knows he has all this power, he does everything he can NOT to abuse it. By doing things like the above, he would be dictating things. While someone who is human, like Lex Luthor shows what could potentially happen if a human had that much power.

A good movie on it is
"Superman vs. The Elite" Trailer - YouTube

[ScudzAlmighty]

Superman does have relatable traits tho, he's lazy and selfish;

He does the bare minimum as a super hero, stopping petty crime such as bank robbers and extremely localised organised crime & singular villains. All through feats of strength which is incredibly easy for him.
When he could use his powers to better the entire globe, rather than a single city's law enforcement.
He could stop nuclear war, help create a sustainable energy source numerous ways, extreme orbital solar energy station, no more need for costly space ships to build orbital stations, there's also his heat ray eyes, he could super heat some diamonds he's created through hand compression of coal, that would then bounce those laser eye beams around and focus them, multiplying it to a crazy amount of energy usable in fusion. Or he could even go to the extreme in regards to fusion seeing as he can fly to the sun.

When does he ever do anything for more than a couple thousand people?
What a dick lol.

Btw my scientific knowledge of the different types and methods of fusion may be alil off hahaha ;P


He'll definitely need other kryptonians about to make it interesting...

SUPERMAN IV THE QUEST FOR PEACE.

he tried to do all that and look what happened.

-edit
There's actually been a whole bunch of different comics where he's tried to make people stop fighting and it's almost always resulted in scared people getting pissed off at being told what to do. In the Russel Crowe trailer, and the Brando narration before that and a bunch of other places he's been taught to lead by example, to set an ideal for people to follow, not obey.

[moose]

:O superboner

http://youtu.be/KVu3gS7iJu4

edit: why wont this shit embed! ahhh copy paste failing me. UBB help only shows vimeo not youtube

[PixelMasher]

looks awesome, even if the movie sucks, you can pretty much count on it being a visual feast thanks to zack snyder. looks promising though!

[glottis8]

it would be cool if he sticks to the beard...

[Marine]

Man of Steel - Official Trailer #2 [HD] - YouTube

youtu.be links don't embed, moose :)

[moose]

im such a noo.be

[MatOaf]

Most of the post's here are trash, the fact is Superman is relatable, people talk about Superman being uber powerful but there are tons of super hero's like the Hulk that are just as powerful. Yet they don't suffer in the same light.

The problem with Superman is that he's always been portrayed as a boy scout who's come from a more or less perfect up bringing under ma and pa kent this in part makes him boring as there is no tension between his foster family. The connections are there...He's an Orphan..he feels isolated...alienated....he may look like one of us but he isn't... In this film anyway there is a distinct lack of understanding in regards to his place in the world..

These are all traits that HUMANS go through and should be able to understand and relate with. .

Superman has character flaws but they are far outweighed by his positive ones which make him boring and flat. His most dangerous villain is Lex who is human. Though there are plenty of foes that could easily kill him. Like Brainaic, Darkseid, Doomsday, Zod, Gog, Superman Prime, Parallax there are villains that could pose a threat to him but time after time and especially in the movies they are rarely used.

I need to get back into writing so I can sort this character out, please don't see it as arrogance it's just that I've spent over a decade thinking about this character.

[slipsius]

that new trailer looks absolutely fan freaking tastic.

[The Mad Artist]

I'm really excited that they are separating this franchise from the Reeves era movies (as good as 1 and 2 are).The last 15 years have shown that Superman in the hands of talented comic writers can be a very different, nuanced character, and I hope they can grasp that with this film.

[peanut™]

Spiderman was orphaned as a child, and was directly responsible for the death of his uncle. He is driven by guilt.


Just so i know, what happened to spiderman's uncle ? i may have missed this when i was a kid and reading the comics

[Mark Dygert]

I think it looks very promising. They might actually get supes right on the big screen. It has a "smallville" vibe to it that I like.

Just so i know, what happened to spiderman's uncle ? i may have missed this when i was a kid and reading the comics
Spiderman doesn't stop a criminal that ends up killing his Uncle?

[Marine]

Just so i know, what happened to spiderman's uncle ? i may have missed this when i was a kid and reading the comics

He had a chance to stop the guy who shot Uncle Ben beforehand, but he didn't because he was a dick

[Jackablade]

This is looking pretty great, but I kinda hope once we've got out grim, grounded Superman movie out of the way then DC can start having some fun with their characters. I don't think the Justice League movie is really going to work in a setting that strives so hard for emotional gravitas. Hell, Marvel's attempts stretch things at times and they're unashamedly cartoonish.

[JacqueChoi]

Yeah! The trailer looks pretty sweet!

[ScudzAlmighty]

Excellent trailer:)
The story is presented reminds me a lot of the Birthright story arc from back in 2000, sans Lex, especially all the craziness at the end.
Very excited:)

[Andreas]

Superman is relatable, people talk about Superman being uber powerful but there are tons of super hero's like the Hulk that are just as powerful. Yet they don't suffer in the same light.

The problem with Superman is that he's always been portrayed as a boy scout who's come from a more or less perfect up bringing under ma and pa kent this in part makes him boring as there is no tension between his foster family. The connections are there...He's an Orphan..he feels isolated...alienated....he may look like one of us but he isn't... In this film anyway there is a distinct lack of understanding in regards to his place in the world..

These are all traits that HUMANS go through and should be able to understand and relate with. .

Superman has character flaws but they are far outweighed by his positive ones which make him boring and flat. His most dangerous villain is Lex who is human. Though there are plenty of foes that could easily kill him. Like Brainaic, Darkseid, Doomsday, Zod, Gog, Superman Prime, Parallax there are villains that could pose a threat to him but time after time and especially in the movies they are rarely used.

I need to get back into writing so I can sort this character out, please don't see it as arrogance it's just that I've spent over a decade thinking about this character.

Agreed. The Batman/Super comics are especially good at putting this across, and are very very good, so people should check em out.

[Selaznog]

Very excited. Zack Snyder is great. And Christopher Nolan? How can this be bad?

Only thing I'm worried about is what appears to be skyscrapers falling down and civilians running around (1:53) , and that cool spaceship thing (1:51). Just feels like I'm watching clips from Transformers 3 or the Avengers.

[MatOaf]

I like the scene where they show pa Kent implying that maybe Clark should have let the boy in the bus die in order to protect his secret.

I feel this goes against the grain of what pa Kent would have traditionally said. Though this could be a more sensible and perhaps realistic approach to the Kent's as most of the time they have always been portrayed as this whiter than white family. It's refreshing if they want to show at least a few chinks in the armor. Obviously they shouldn't deviate from the main mythos too much but ultimately they are humans and they want to protect their son.

Think of what would happen to such a child in today's world he would be kidnapped and treated like a lab rat he/she would be experimented upon so that we could figure out how and why he/she is like that. Think of what someone like that could do to the balance of power in the world. America already a super power has just gotten that much stronger with one of the most powerful beings on the planet living on their doorstep.

Think of the fear that would strike into people's minds.

I would really like them to tackle the political upheaval a being like Superman would cause around the world and perhaps the great pains he may have to go to in order to show the world he's not an American Citizen but a World Citizen.

[dustinbrown]

Trailer looks great! I really hope they don't try to cram too much into one movie though, and rush the pacing.

[ScudzAlmighty]

I don't think Zack Snyder knows how to rush things ;)

[skylebones]

I don't think Zack Snyder knows how to rush things ;)

haha, touche!

[Shiniku]

Only thing I'm worried about is what appears to be skyscrapers falling down and civilians running around (1:53) , and that cool spaceship thing (1:51). Just feels like I'm watching clips from Transformers 3 or the Avengers.
I, for one, am relieved to see things like that. It might be an indication that this film may actually feature some action sequences, as opposed to some previous superman movies which were a lot of standing around and lifting heavy things. Plus, Snyder is very talented when it comes to shooting action, no way it would turn into a mess like the Transformers.

MatOaf:
Yeah, that line by Pa Kent struck me as out-of-character as well. I doubt they would change a character's morals so much though, I'm sure the scene has just been edited to add drama to the trailer, but probably isn't so out of character in the film.

Also.. wow I forgot I even made this thread haha. Over a year and still seeing activity.

[praetus]

Totally agree with Matoaf

I love the Pa Kent line. There is so much hesitation in the line it's as if it is killing him to say it. You really feel as if he wants his son to do the right thing but doing that could ultimately backfire and make him a lab rat or something else. People might not be able to accept what Clark is. It's the difference in wanting your son to do the right thing and wanting to keep him safe and secure.

[McGreed]

I think I might have read the comic which the movie is relating on, at least it got the spaceships. It was called Superman - Earth One, and was all about him coming to earth, growing up and then (apparently in this setting) the people who destroyed his home world came looking for him. Not going to say more, but I think it might match the trailer.

[Marine]

Man of Steel - Official Trailer 3 [HD] - YouTube

[ScudzAlmighty]

That looks Super :)

[peanut™]

I like him more with a beard, than clean shaved. :D

[Andreas]

lol how does Jo'Rel know that away from Krypton he will develop superpowers?

[Sculptaur]

They seem to have the ability to travel to different worlds, why wouldn't he know?

[The Mad Artist]

From what I understand, in the film, even on Krypton, Kal'El shows signs of being 'special.' (I dunno how, he's just a baby at that point)

[The Mad Artist]

I tell you what, this will be a midnight showing watch for me. I am extremely excited about it. I've always defended the fact that Superman can still be the greatest superhero when he's written the right way, a lot of my favorite comic stories involve him, and everything I'm reading about this film seems like they nailed it.

[ScudzAlmighty]

In the different comics/tv series I've read/seen, Jor-el is able to (at the very least) observe different worlds and is able to study the effects of Eaths yellow sun radiation on Kryptonian's compared to their own red sun. I don't know if it was explained weather this was strictly while trying to find an inhabitable for Kal-el or not is up for grabs. In the comic series Birthright it was after an extensive search of possible safe heaven's while in Smallville Kryptonian's had been travel to earth for centuries.

-also I agree with everything you said Mad Artist, especially the written right part.

[Andreas]

They seem to have the ability to travel to different worlds, why wouldn't he know?

So all but a handful voluntarily died when they could easily have GTFO?

I think space travel was very experimental at the time; Jo'Rel having pioneered it. As far as I am aware Superman was shot off in a small prototype; there was a full size module made that his parents planned to use but it was damaged in the calamity.

[ScudzAlmighty]

I haven't watched "the movie" in a while but from what I remember the leaders of Krypton refused to entertain the notion that the end of their world was imminent and forbid Jor-el from attempting any kind of escape, the pod he made for Kal-el was done in secret. In some of the comic versions Krypton was destroyed through war and no one else was able to escape in time. In the Superman and JLA animated series Brainiac destroyed the place before anybody could. So ultimately the reasoning just happens to be whoever is telling the story at the time.
Though in all versions criminals like Zod were already banished long before. Usually to the Phantom Zone though I'm sure there's plenty of others that were just "out there" somewhere.

[The Mad Artist]

...and someone just pointed out to me that the building seen at the 2:18 mark says LexCorp on top. Excellent. :)