Can CE3 handle this much?

[Hugh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8tcNUbrr7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyPr_oJdlk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03SVGktjLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBU6ViX_nuU

I never used CE3 before so August should be lovely. Hopefully I can will fall in love with it and convert but I thought about this when I went back to look at why I bought Arma 2. Can this engine handle this much AI on screen realistically?

[NAIMA]

Cryengine is a very powerfull engine and it can handle ths and more , the problemis that it may require some coding to mimicize this kind of game I guess ... its a very good engine for open environments and large areas....

[pior]

Did you get the number of that donkey cart ?

[Visceral]

Does engines theese days really have hardcoded limits? i would belive that the only limit really is the hardware.

[Hugh]

Does engines theese days really have hardcoded limits? i would belive that the only limit really is the hardware.

well UDk just removed their hardcode. I suppose Cryengine may have some maybe not. Not sure what to expect in CDK on launch but hope its pretty much all and free roam in optimization to the engine.

[Minos]

CE3 can definitely handle that. The problem really is the hardware. I doubt it would be possible to have one thousand enemies on screen on the xbox without some trickeries. Cconsoles don't support hardware instancing afaik.

[Rick_D]

cryengine ai is very expensive, you would not be able to pull that off without writing new ai code that doesn't have anywhere near the functionality of the current cryengine ai systems.
but look at arma, the ai they have is very very basic, it doesn't do anything smart or even realistic in most cases, so you can see how they are getting away with it: by simply doing very little calculations.

[e-freak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm-_hDRD2mk

1:20

[eld]

What others have mentioned, it's about doing less but make it seem like more.

I'm pretty sure that CE3 AI code isn't all hardcoded and static.

In a scenario when you're facing an army you alone will never experience a personal fight against every other single individual in that army, so why have every enemy be calculated the same way.

[Rick_D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm-_hDRD2mk

1:20

an obviously theatrical trailer that then cuts to the ingame footage showing about 10 ai onscreen.

[Hugh]

What others have mentioned, it's about doing less but make it seem like more.

I'm pretty sure that CE3 AI code isn't all hardcoded and static.

In a scenario when you're facing an army you alone will never experience a personal fight against every other single individual in that army, so why have every enemy be calculated the same way.

yea I think that will have to be done. I hope the CE3 SDK has source access like I'm hearing. That would solve everything about my questions regarding this if any issues arose.

@e-freak: that scene was all cryengine 3?

[e-freak]

@Hboybowen: yes - all in engine, all realtime. no clue why we didn't have every bird singing this from the trees. Obviously the guy in front of the kinect is a real person ;)

[eaglevision]

Not nearly as many, but it's a start:

(not made by me)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS4XNIRf2j8

[Hugh]

Not nearly as many, but it's a start:

(not made by me)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS4XNIRf2j8
thank you for this. Now I know and nothing is holding me back anymore.:thumbup:

[mahmoud]

cryengine ai is very expensive, you would not be able to pull that off without writing new ai code that doesn't have anywhere near the functionality of the current cryengine ai systems.
but look at arma, the ai they have is very very basic, it doesn't do anything smart or even realistic in most cases, so you can see how they are getting away with it: by simply doing very little calculations.
no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6mI410K_ZU

it's not "very very" basic