blizzard cataclysm wargan House work

[HughieDM]

Hey all tryin to finish this up but I would love some thoughts

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQM8btGw3KI/AAAAAAAAAIo/AWIjOxJBHFg/s1600/BlizzardHouse01.8GI04.jpg
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also have the break down of my prosses at my blog
http://hughmccullom.blogspot.com/

[frell]

Im curious as to how blizzard makes their buildings to they can be walked into so well

[HughieDM]

what do you mean they just model the interiors into the models. If you have wow installed and are interested you can check it out with the wow model viewer.

[Vailias]

frell: The collision model is most likely NOT the view model.. like in most games.
hughi: looks nice overall. :)

[Mark Dygert]

The modeling looks good. The texture on the tree has too much black in the crevices, I'm not sure blizzard uses black for shadows on anything, its always a slightly darker shade of the dominant color.

[HughieDM]

Hey all thanx for checkin my work out
and thanx for the cc
so I created the stone texture and UVd it on
Im planing on adjusting the silhouette with the mesh a little
I alos adjusted the tree texture a bit I think the still requires some love let me know what you guys think
as for the scene overall Im planning on placing the house on a hill with a nice painted sky bg any ideas would be greatly appreciated

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQVVGbZT7xI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ccy0cmo34KQ/s1600/BlizzardHouse01v.8.41.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQVVDKpDwkI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/6R7KTX3iqV0/s1600/BlizzardHouse01v.8.42.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQVU-w2i05I/AAAAAAAAAJI/TbLcM937vHQ/s1600/BlizzardHouse01v.8.43.jpg

thanx
Hugh

[Tea Monster]

I do love that hand-painted look. Could we see some wires on the tree?

[HughieDM]

Hey yeah Im really enjoying painting the textures, and I feel like Im learning of cool little techniques
heres the tree wire its about 4k polys
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQXAg4sviZI/AAAAAAAAAJg/sgkUGG_xtsc/s1600/TreeWire.jpg

[HughieDM]

Been a little but heres an update
Im planning on putting this in UDK
THe scene Im thinking will be simple Ill have the house on the hill and ill paint the bg elemints on cards
Im trying to think of smaller assets to create and place in the scene with it

let me know what you guys think

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQr8WYFV5MI/AAAAAAAAAJo/SOuL6UOX-M0/s1600/BlizzardHouse01v.9.1.jpg

[Jeff Parrott]

I like the silhouette on the house. I think the stone work needs some adjustments though.

Mainly the texture needs more value change and the chimney area should be made of a different stone. Maybe brick?

Keep punching up the textures across the board on this.

Also your trees while cool looking are way too dense at 4k

You have some great stuff here. Can't wait to see how it progresses.

[xXm0RpH3usXx]

i think this:
http://wiki.polycount.com/VertexNormal?action=show&redirect=Vertex+Normal
will help giving the trees a little touch up, as they seem a little messy overall...

also on the treetrunk you should be carefull about the texture.
on some areas the cracks are going along with the growth direction in some its got a 90° to it

[glottis8]

I don't know about the tree but the rest is looking really slick. I would suggest not so much detail on the branches.. .they look blotchy.

[HughieDM]

Hey all thanx for the cc
Jeffro: I def need to punch up and work the textures, I would like to first get the scene done and composition set, and the tree was made a while before this project and I thought it might fit but I Im leaning tword making some new trees that fit better. so I was watching your wind mill and I enjoyed your simple stylized sky did you use any particular ref would love any ideas for my sky and maybe some cool ideas on how to paint it

xxmorph: that looks awesome any way to do that in maya cause I have no idea how to rotate my vertex normals in maya

glottis: thanx yeah as I stated above Ill be creating new trees for the scene that fit with the painterly feel

[BlvdNights]

I want to see the Textures!

[Jeff Parrott]

The sky I painted by looking at a boatload of reference.

This tutorial helped a ton as well:

http://www.androidblues.com/cloudtut.html

It's really just playing around with colors and figuring how to make the sky help accentuate the work you're trying to show off. I didn't want my scene to be to busy. I'd suggest something stormier for your scene though. Maybe give Monster House a rent or just check out the always awesome Chris Appelhans site http://www.froghatstudios.com/mh/mh_page2.html for ideas.

The texture right now just seem very flat and lacking any lighting. You need to fake depth in the to an extent (shadows and highlights to give the illusion of depth).

EDIT: In Maya to go Average your vertex normals. No idea if that will work but it's work a try.

[HughieDM]

Hey all after looking around online and little found on vertex normal editing in maya I think I found an awesome way to edit them so I made a video let me know what you guys think
Vertex Normal Editing in maya
and here are my textures so far I haven't made normals dono if I want to maybe just for more shape but well see
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TP8R7DeyI0I/AAAAAAAAAIA/ffhF_3mKOn4/s1600/WoodTexture.1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TP8R_BDJdVI/AAAAAAAAAII/3i-MCYxhzzE/s1600/RoofingTexture.2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQwV4IdpC1I/AAAAAAAAAKo/m8yPvDh3EMg/s1600/WoodPlankFloor.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQwV0jHobwI/AAAAAAAAAKg/RdSIXkh0cQY/s1600/Window.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQwVx8SIbtI/AAAAAAAAAKY/l5otWAcD8Lc/s1600/Stone.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TQwVvbU8lyI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/EAmz8SWwaz4/s1600/Grass.jpg
would love cc and tips
again thanx all

[natetheartist]

if you want this to look like warcraft, you have to make it look way older, lower res, less interesting, and more brightly colored....like a nintendo 64 puked up a rainbow.
>_>......




seriously though, this is looking like a good start. You have a lot more information in certain areas, such as your trees than I've seen in WoW. The textures also feel more..rounded and cartoonish, less etched than that of Wow. Try increasing your mid-level contrast, sharpen some edges within your textures, and work with more scratch-work and highlight painted into edges.

[Don Karnage]

I'd love to see how this turns out when it's done, keep it up fella!

[wretchedgoat]

hey hugh,

cool video for the vertex normals, that's a really neat way to solve that issue! And i agree with jeffro about the textures man. It's a good base but you could def push them more. Keep it up man

[xXm0RpH3usXx]

http://tinyurl.com/357tmbq
http://tinyurl.com/34d49u8

on the second link go to the first search result, scroll down all the way...
i think thats all you need...

[Jeff Parrott]

Looking at your flats there are a few things you're missing.

You aren't defining the planes of the texture clearly. Everything is smoothed together. It's ok to have sharp edges on a texture to define something on the texture.

You are not working sharp enough to warrant that resolution. Like natetheartist said knock the textures down to a smaller resolution and work with a 1 pixel brush (or don't be afraid too).

The windows need more detail, like glows coming from inside or drape silhouette would be great.

EDIT: Great find about the normals, thanks for the video!

[Andrew Mackie]

Great looking stuff all around man!
Keep it going!

[frell]

How did you make that grass?

[HughieDM]

hey all back from chi town and on my comp to hit the work
hope everyone had a good holiday
natetheartist: yeah i had that tree before this project and I took it out and made some new ones that fit a bit better, Im still planning on going back to my textures to make them better. I just want to get the scene together first with the colors so I can tweek things
Don Karnage: thanx I kinda want a some what finished piece for this thursday so we'll see...
but even after that ill continue to work on it
wretchedgoat: I still ow you a beer, sorry my last nights were with the girl you know..
get that frog out its lookin bad ass
jeffro: yeah I def need to work the textures ill prob get to that tmr
Andrew Mackie: thanx im on it
frell: just used a round brush with opac and stroked away with a grass image on my other screen to look at now and then, actually I kinda started over twice cause I didnt like how it was turning out but finally got this and I think its ok
any who so heres my up date I got it in UDK finally
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TSwXfD-LGxI/AAAAAAAAALc/k6mN6ueUe5A/s1600/Image01.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TSwXmZzbN9I/AAAAAAAAALk/SdX6pE6FUNg/s1600/Image04.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__uoJLxZ29pQ/TSwXsNtaBEI/AAAAAAAAALs/7ftfx7vZ6aY/s1600/Image08.jpg
as always let me know what you guys think

[StefanH]

looks nice . I would say tighten up the color scheme. Make it more WOW-ish. Maybe give the sky a little bit of a pink hue and make the grass bit more yellow. Sth like that.
Also: the sky is not bright enough for the illumination its giving IMO.

[duxun]

the sky bothers me because it's not of the same art style as the rest of the scene... maybe intentional ??

[Jeff Parrott]

Sky needs more going on.

The ivy is too high poly. Reduce that some or just paint it on the texture for the building.

Roof tiles read like bricks everywhere but above the door.

Bricks are super flat. Give them more depth.

Trees need as much character in the model as the house has.

The house silhouette reads real nice I think.

The lighting overall needs major work. I would really find a lighting scheme that is real moody. This lighting (mid-day) is kinda blah.

It's coming along fine. Just keep refining it.

[HughieDM]

Hey guys thanx for the cc
the sky and lighting will be next up for work
the sky I have on it right now is just a sky I had from onather project and Im still not quite sure what time of day to have the scene, I do like the pink sky with the yellow grass thanx stephen
I think today ill create a sky first then go through my textures and tweek the colors to get a color sceme going
Jeffro: thanx for the indepth crit
do you think the roof reads like brick on the top from certain angles or that the texture needs work
and the stone ino I need to work on that texture ill get too it
trees def need more character yesterday was the first day putting them with the house ill work on there models
thanx all time to get beck too it

[Jeff Parrott]

I think the texture just needs more work.

But it could be the angle as well. Maybe try adjusting it and see if that helps.

[HughieDM]

I figured I would knock the dust off this thread since Im working on this house again

updated the ground and created some new trees props and shrubs

some new lighting too

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LHT6X-eoeIA/TjcRAm86L7I/AAAAAAAAAO0/NTeFEdm4Qvc/s1600/BlzTownNightLightingB01.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gQhc9LcVZ_k/TjcQP1cdUGI/AAAAAAAAAOk/aPtWMJZIqSg/s1600/BlzTownNightLightingB03.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Boz3v11WFHQ/TjcQGR0LbeI/AAAAAAAAAOc/Fv-QtVFZZTw/s1600/BlzTownNightLightingB04.jpg

[Lonewolf]

that stuff looks really cool

i like that style

[pigdog04]

I think the moonlight adds a lot to this piece. Really Cool styling.

[Andrew Mackie]

Looking really nice man.
The lighting is fantastic.

[jimmypopali]

The hightmap landscape is deffinately a WoW style.

[SimonT]

the grass/ground transition is a bit too hard for me. but the rest is really nice!

[HughieDM]

thanks all and I agree simon the grass ground transition needs some work Im thinking of making a lower more spread grass that is like a modeled version of the grass in the ground texture
quick update
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AQWkO_8iERk/TjvDl8IGb7I/AAAAAAAAAPU/9UZFLHflhTI/s1600/Image08.jpg
alot more images are posted directly on my website
www.hughmccullom.com

[Welbig]

Looking great Hugh, the only thing that really stands out with me is the rock texture. The strokes seem so big compared to anything around it. Maybe it is tiled too big? I've been toying around with some stuff after work here and there I'll have to wrap it up and post it somewhere so you can take a look at it.

[toxic_h2o]

That video is awesome thank you for sharing. :D Also the environment is coming along nicely!!

[Saiainoshi]

All of your asset textures need a final highlight/shadow pass. There is a great lack of detail highlight on the roof tiles and wood. The cream colored white walls need to be kicked down a few values as well, it's too contrasty against the wood and roof. For this to really be A+, your props should be as stlyzed as the house. None of your props look like any effort was put into them. Foliage looks good, just needs a little more color variation. Lighting and fog are great :) If you're not sure about the final highlight/shadow pass, I can do a quick paint over for you.

[letronrael]

i love the style, simple and accurate and sure WELL DONE ! gratz