View Full Version : Stupid Max Upgrade question.
07-15-2009, 03:31 AM
Hey dudes, it is I, LoM Chaos!
I come to you with a pretty retarded question that I just haven't bothered until now.
Okay, so here is the deal, I have Max 8 -.- Had it for 3 years or so.
Now there is obviously max 2010. Do you guys actually have to pay all that money for each version?
07-15-2009, 03:36 AM
nope, you just pay for the version you want.
07-15-2009, 03:39 AM
I see. Sucks that its pretty dear for people not doing it proffesionally and in-house like myself. xD
07-15-2009, 05:21 AM
max 9 and 2009 are good and stable releases,- 2010 has some problems with the GUI
as far as I know (or what I heard) autodesk even offers a PDF where you can transfer licenses from person to person so that you can use the patches and service packs and support for your version. So if you'd happen to buy a used license from lets say max2009 it should be possible to transfer that license to you and with that it should be as good as if you bought it a year ago instead of now just the newest with the higher price tag.
I cant fully guarantee this but a close friend told me this as he had a long experience with max licenses.
I have to work next week with a company that only has max 8 as well and it sucks because many of the scripts I write for the project do not work in that release and I also can use less free scripts / plugins for it.
07-15-2009, 05:54 AM
The Portable License Utility, isn't meant so you can resell it. It's meant so you can port your lic between a few machines you own. Like your laptop and your desktop, or work to home for the weekend. The documentation and the way it works make it pretty clear that its not intended as a way to resell.
The legal owner does not change, only the machine it works on changes.
- To transfer you first have to install 3dsmax on the other machine, they assume you will use the DVD they sent you (instructions actually say that) the 30 day trial works too.
- Then you export a list/code for that newer computer.
- Then on the old you import that list/code and then you're clear to export the license specifically to that new computer.
- The old system stays locked until you port the license back. It goes give you a 1 day grace period in case you forget.
I would be weary of anyone saying they would transfer a license legally to you using that method. You won't be the legal owner, just using a license someone else owns. Legally they are entitled to upgrades and support not you. More then likely they are unlocking their version, and reselling the lic transfer to someone else...
07-15-2009, 06:06 AM
no I don't mean that- I know about that. I mean like really switching the ownership officially via a form that you have to fax or send autodesk
like I said I cant confirm this personally but I heard sometime something like this
07-15-2009, 06:56 AM
What would be really cool is if Autodesk sold older versions of Max/Maya/whatever at a reduced price. They might be able to get more legitimate users that way. On the other hand companies might not upgrade as often if that was an option.
07-15-2009, 07:02 AM
oh well here it is black on white from the autodesk website:
Transfer of Licence
As a general rule, you are not permitted to distribute, rent, loan, lease, sell, sublicense, or otherwise transfer all or part of your Autodesk software or documentation without Autodesk's prior written consent. Autodesk's consent is given only for very limited exceptions. Please read the terms of the Autodesk end-user software licence agreement accompanying the software or contact the local Autodesk office for more details.
You must obtain consent from Autodesk PRIOR to transferring any Autodesk licences, as stated in the Autodesk Software Licence Agreement. You may do so by completing and submitting the Transfer of licence form - please ensure that you complete all the sections on the form.and then it links to the PDF that I meant.
Where I was wrong is that you are NOT allowed to sell (and therefore be able to buy legal) the software. But license transfer is possible.
And yes being able to buy legal older releases (like a less bloated Photoshop version) would be nice in the industry.
There are however also some variations in each country like how License Agreements are valid (like in Germany they are not valid if they are not on the package itself but only appear after you already installed or are about to install the software - its not legal here then because you didn't knew it before you were buying the product). And also 2nd hand software dealing varies from country to country - I remember some Oracle or similar stories that went to court in Europe because of that.
07-15-2009, 07:06 AM
So if some money happened to fall out of this guys pocket, and the other guy happened to pick it up and then accidentally fill out the form and fax it in... everyone is in the clear.
07-15-2009, 07:11 AM
accidents do happen...
07-15-2009, 07:22 AM
ok so I asked again:
the license transfer option (PDF stuff) is very useful for companies that switch their names, or lets say artists that leave a company and receive software that they may keep (the company itself then cant use the license and software anymore). As long as no money is being transferred its legal.
The other thing that I heard now is that in Europe autodesk has to offer the option to install max on max. 3 computers with 1 license. So if you live in the EU have a workstation and notebook and netbook you should be able to install in on all 3 and probably use them all at the same time.
As far as selling licenses, they usually only approve license transfers when say a studio's ownership changes.
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