View Full Version : TF2: Scout Update
Geezus
02-23-2009, 07:49 AM
I'm surprised there isn't a thread on this!
Anyone else following the updates?
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/
CP_EGYPT screenies: http://www.lanmaniax.com/maps/html/cp_egypt.html
I've never been a big fan of the scout, but my engineer will love all these light weights running around farming achievements!
sicsided
02-23-2009, 08:08 AM
I've never been a big fan of the scout, but my engineer will love all these light weights running around farming achievements!
NEED A DISPENSER HERE!
pestibug
02-23-2009, 08:21 AM
*zaps turret*
I just FINALLY got the hang of playing a scout recently. And this is after years of TFC before TF2 as well. Scout update is just in time!
Just bring back the scout's TFC concussion grenades so I can launch myself past a trio of heavies camping a choke point please.
JacqueChoi
02-23-2009, 10:44 AM
Ugh.
Only beef I have with Scouts, is every once in a while, you'll be in a room with a scout that just completely destroys everyone with insane skill, timing, and health pack camping.
Only thing that ever seems to beat them are fully upgraded turrets.
:S
I just hate to see how much more ridiculous those players become with this upgrade.
TWilson
02-23-2009, 11:22 AM
BONK!
Finally eh ..These feel so far apart.
rooster
02-23-2009, 11:25 AM
i dunno jox it's quite possible to 'pwn' as the kids say with any character if you're good enough
Paul Pepera
02-23-2009, 11:28 AM
Don't like Scout, but the Sandman looks interesting.
*still waiting for Spy upgrades*
Geezus
02-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Don't like Scout, but the Sandman looks interesting.
*still waiting for Spy upgrades*
You and me both! Flame Retardant Suit at the cost of a shorter cloak, imo.
Pseudo
02-23-2009, 11:51 AM
I will enjoy the sniping practice with servers full of scouts!
rooster
02-23-2009, 11:53 AM
i'm dying for the demo pack tbh.. not really cos he needs it, just because I can imagine some sweet toys that go boom
HonkyPunch
02-23-2009, 01:57 PM
Demoman 4 life
TWilson
02-23-2009, 02:12 PM
Soldier Achievements pleeeeasseeee
He used to dominate in qwtf now he sucks major balls. Especially when compared to the demo who can fire 12 shots without reloading.
Might need to simultaneously upgrade the engineer, soldier, and demoman though.
I can't wait for soldiers update, I'm able to bounce around everything in sight. but he is not as mobile as qwtf soldier class.( I don't expect them to change that, I'm content with the soldier)
Mind you qwtf was dominated by soldiers and snipers.
achmedthesnake
02-23-2009, 05:42 PM
hehe all one side will need is a wall of heavies with natascha, espically after the last update which seemed to overpower them
Jackablade
02-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Basically, grass grows, birds fly, the sun shines and I.. I hurt people. I'm a Force-a-nature!
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/force-a-nature.htm
Oh man. With TF2, they are so doing it right. I don't even play the game. I've never played the game, I don't plan on playing the game, but even I look forward to updates with glee! Even the stuff that's about the game without being in the game is so ridiculously awesome!
Underline, italics, bold AND caps worthy!
AWESOME
... maybe I oughta actually try the game out at some point, after all...
CIgano
02-24-2009, 02:10 PM
Basically, grass grows, birds fly, the sun shines and I.. I hurt people. I'm a Force-a-nature!
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/force-a-nature.htm
For as much as I always loved Valve, I'm terribly let down because they put a Portuguese fellow speaking Spanish D;
rooster
02-24-2009, 02:14 PM
because the demoman sounds so scottish and the sniper sounds so australian..
they've always been so accurate in the past :P
ps maybe its just a spanish dude working in portugal
Swizzle
02-25-2009, 03:38 AM
... maybe I oughta actually try the game out at some point, after all...
It's 50% off until Friday on Steam. Only ten bucks and you get tons of free content with each class update.
EricV
02-25-2009, 05:03 AM
Finally! Not really a big scout player, but these new unlockables look interesting
Geezus thats an awesome idea by the way! How I would love to be able to run by fire spouting pyros and not get ignited!!!
Mongrelman
02-25-2009, 05:39 AM
because the demoman sounds so scottish and the sniper sounds so australian..
they've always been so accurate in the past :P
ps maybe its just a spanish dude working in portugal
The demoman sounds scottish? Que?
Wahlgren
02-25-2009, 05:58 AM
Mongrelman. yeah. He sounds really freakin alot goddamn much scottish ;)
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26185.html
rooster
02-25-2009, 11:01 AM
if the voice guy for the demoman is scottish, I am the moon. On my moon internet, typing on my big moon keyboard
edit: boyo.
MightyPea
02-25-2009, 12:25 PM
Sandman is pretty effective... against me >__>
Tumerboy
02-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Wow, I've known the Moon all this time, and didn't even realize it!
Mark Dygert
02-25-2009, 02:38 PM
if the voice guy for the demoman is scottish, I am the moon. On my moon internet, typing on my big moon keyboard
edit: boyo.
He said with his moon whiskey bottle stuck in his giant moon eye!
http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2008/02/trip_to_the_moon.jpg
"I'm a black scottish cyclops!"
rooster
02-25-2009, 04:20 PM
well how do you like that
EricV
02-25-2009, 07:00 PM
does anyone else think the Force-a-Nature is a useless piece of shit? You'd think for a gun that has less ammo it would do MORE damage!? But no, it does LESS! I cant count today how many times ive been point blank in front of or behind an enemy and I didnt kill themARGHH!H!H!!GF!G!G!@!$!@%!
blankslatejoe
02-25-2009, 08:53 PM
hm..the upate notes made it sound like force-a-nature was supposed to be more a defense type weapon rather than a damage one. A knockback weapon could do wonders against ubercharges, or against foes near cliffs, or heck, maybe it could even make your double jump extend into a quasi-triple jump.
I'm eager to give it a go
Jackablade
02-25-2009, 11:04 PM
Indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdCxUu_A-MI
EricV
02-26-2009, 01:22 AM
thats pretty awesome Jack, looks like I spoke too soon. Offensively speaking tho I still stand by what I said....I'll take the scatter gun if I'm goin in guns a blazing
Flynny
02-26-2009, 02:17 AM
Dammit, i want another TF2 introducing... video ;(
Wahlgren
02-26-2009, 02:51 AM
me wants me some pyro introducing.
EricV
02-26-2009, 06:47 AM
on second thought I'd just like to add, while its all fine n dandy that you can triple jump with the FaN whats the point really?! You can reach new heights and new places but so what? Its not like you can effectively take out enemies from a distance, just possibly escape after a weak hit n run....WEAK I SAY!
on second thought I'd just like to add, while its all fine n dandy that you can triple jump with the FaN whats the point really?! You can reach new heights and new places but so what? Its not like you can effectively take out enemies from a distance, just possibly escape after a weak hit n run....WEAK I SAY!
The scout is a hit and run class....
If you don't see the value in the triple jump, then you ought to play a different class.
His long range attack is sandman+team or any of his other weapons.
What do you expect of a scout?
Your interpretation is WEAK, WEAK I SAY
Kovac
02-26-2009, 08:25 AM
Definitely.... trip jump gives tons of early scoring advantages as well as it looks like there's a ton of shortcuts that could be exploited with this.
Geezus
02-26-2009, 08:27 AM
I could care less about the Scout. The big news for me is INSTANT BACKSTABS for the Spy! It's sooooo wicked. Chain backstabs have been sooooo much fun over these past days!
bounchfx
02-26-2009, 08:43 AM
I could care less about the Scout. The big news for me is INSTANT BACKSTABS for the Spy! It's sooooo wicked. Chain backstabs have been sooooo much fun over these past days!
Whoa! I didn't know they added this!
rooster
02-26-2009, 12:19 PM
<internet pedant> could care less means you do care somewhat.. couldn't care less means there is no way you could care less </internet pedant>
anyhoo... that spy info sounds.. tres interessant
Geezus
02-26-2009, 12:53 PM
<internet pedant> could care less means you do care somewhat.. couldn't care less means there is no way you could care less </internet pedant>
anyhoo... that spy info sounds.. tres interessant
For that...I shall stab you...in the back. :)
EricV
02-26-2009, 03:19 PM
The scout is a hit and run class....
If you don't see the value in the triple jump, then you ought to play a different class.
His long range attack is sandman+team or any of his other weapons.
What do you expect of a scout?
Your interpretation is WEAK, WEAK I SAY
I do play other classes. I play demo mostly and spy second...only been playing scout for the achievements. Its an ok class, only really good for capping points quickly imo. THATS IT. and his long range attack is sandman? are u fucking kidding me? You stun the guy and chances are by the time u run over to him the stun will have worn off. And if ur lucky enough to get to him before it wears off, unless you got the scatter gun, theres little chance you're killing him with the FaN. Its a frustrating, shitty class....when I got the achievments Ill be happy to go back to demo and spy and never look back
sicsided
02-26-2009, 03:45 PM
Why even play Scout if you don't like him, just for achievements?
Scout is good for capping points, but he is also a great distraction. Most players will frantically try to kill him as he hops around, not noticing the rest of the enemy team approaching. That's what I do with him anyways, and that's why I wish they came out with a bat or scatter gun replacement that got crits when fried from above on the head of enemies. Double Jump and misdirection are my fav.
rooster
02-26-2009, 04:29 PM
yeah, a good scout can take down a heavy, i know.. i was the heavy
aesir
02-26-2009, 04:35 PM
I do play other classes. I play demo mostly and spy second...only been playing scout for the achievements. Its an ok class, only really good for capping points quickly imo. THATS IT. and his long range attack is sandman? are u fucking kidding me? You stun the guy and chances are by the time u run over to him the stun will have worn off. And if ur lucky enough to get to him before it wears off, unless you got the scatter gun, theres little chance you're killing him with the FaN. Its a frustrating, shitty class....when I got the achievments Ill be happy to go back to demo and spy and never look back
I'm not a huge fan of the new weapons for scout, but scout is a pretty unbeatable class when sentries aren't involved. A scout can take any class 1v1, and escape easily if the odds are worse. At least when it's me playing...
Tumerboy
02-26-2009, 04:55 PM
yeah, a good scout can take down a heavy, i know.. i was the heavy
Batting a Heavy to death is better than sex.
Mark Dygert
02-26-2009, 05:10 PM
Stop talking about how cool the spy backstab is... its the fastest way to see it disappear! =P
I do play other classes. I play demo mostly and spy second...only been playing scout for the achievements. Its an ok class, only really good for capping points quickly imo. THATS IT. and his long range attack is sandman? are u fucking kidding me? You stun the guy and chances are by the time u run over to him the stun will have worn off. And if ur lucky enough to get to him before it wears off, unless you got the scatter gun, theres little chance you're killing him with the FaN. Its a frustrating, shitty class....when I got the achievments Ill be happy to go back to demo and spy and never look back
The scout is a short ranged class, do you expect him to have some sort of rifle. Scouts are lucky they can stun the enemy across the battlefield. I don't play scout often, but every class requires you to adapt, it is evident you have not for the scout.
If anything I'd go out on a limb and say he's over powered now ( I can't tell being that most teams consist of 8+ scouts)
If anything I'd go out on a limb and say he's over powered now ( I can't tell being that most teams consist of 8+ scouts)
They still go down like cheap hookers under my flamethrower.
This update came at JUST the right time. After years of TFC and TF2 I finally got the hang of the scout's style of play recently. I used to play mainly soldier (since it was the most Quake3-like and felt natural), with a bit of HWGuy as well. The pyro update got me trying the pyro out, and now he's my favorite class. The medic update got me playing a medic from time to time and actually enjoying myself.
I love valve.
EricV
02-26-2009, 09:39 PM
The scout is a short ranged class, do you expect him to have some sort of rifle. Scouts are lucky they can stun the enemy across the battlefield. I don't play scout often, but every class requires you to adapt, it is evident you have not for the scout.
If anything I'd go out on a limb and say he's over powered now ( I can't tell being that most teams consist of 8+ scouts)
trust me dude ive played enough hours to know what im talking about. I can cap points like a mofo with scout, but when it comes time to kick ass n take out the trash thats when its time to switch classes. Whats the sense in "adapting" when theres other better offensive classes out there to choose from? Chirst I get more kills as a medic than I do scout! Theres no way the scouts overpowered now. They serve a purpose in certain specific situations, but in general they are a weaker class. Whens the last time you saw a scout take out a level 3 sentry for instance? Even an ubered scout cant take out a lvl3! Like I said when its time to make a quick grab for a point thats when Ill switch to scout, but once the other team starts building sentries, forget it...you're fucked!
aesir
02-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Scouts can do anything except take out a sentry. Even if scouts couldn't cap points I'd use em.
trust me dude ive played enough hours to know what im talking about. I can cap points like a mofo with scout, but when it comes time to kick ass n take out the trash thats when its time to switch classes. Whats the sense in "adapting" when theres other better offensive classes out there to choose from? Chirst I get more kills as a medic than I do scout! Theres no way the scouts overpowered now. They serve a purpose in certain specific situations, but in general they are a weaker class. Whens the last time you saw a scout take out a level 3 sentry for instance? Even an ubered scout cant take out a lvl3! Like I said when its time to make a quick grab for a point thats when Ill switch to scout, but once the other team starts building sentries, forget it...you're fucked!
Who's the only one to be able to effectively stop a uber attck? The scout with his Sandman.
Who's the only one to be able to flick god mode on for a couple seconds? scout via bonk
There's a problem with your play style if you're getting more kills as a medic, or you're more experienced/skilled in one class more then the other.
You have to keep in mind certain maps favor scouts.
I love scouts. Really missing the TF2.
Usually do okay with the pistol at range, so long as you are tricky and keep running. And the other person's aim sucks. And you can... sort of go after turrets. Maybe. If you're stupid, and try to outrun their turn speed.
aesir
02-27-2009, 12:54 AM
well, been using force of nature for a bit now. My opinion is that my kill rate is about the same. maybe a tad less then it is with the normal shotty. Fast reload is nice. Triple jump I dont really use..
EricV
02-27-2009, 07:15 AM
Who's the only one to be able to effectively stop a uber attck? The scout with his Sandman.
Who's the only one to be able to flick god mode on for a couple seconds? scout via bonk
There's a problem with your play style if you're getting more kills as a medic, or you're more experienced/skilled in one class more then the other.
You have to keep in mind certain maps favor scouts.
pyro with compression blast can effectively stop an uber. Also a few well timed detonated stickies below an ubercharged will blow the medic apart from the uber-ee. God mode with bonk? Thats an exaggeration. My play style is awesome, thats why I choose not to play with scouts in most situations. I would say lumberyard definitely favors scouts, or possibly some custom maps Ive never played. Scouts are shitty in most cases, end of story
dfacto
02-27-2009, 07:59 AM
Pyro turns scouts into crispy chicken, and that's about it. Long live the backburner!
pyro with compression blast can effectively stop an uber. Also a few well timed detonated stickies below an ubercharged will blow the medic apart from the uber-ee. God mode with bonk? Thats an exaggeration. My play style is awesome, thats why I choose not to play with scouts in most situations. I would say lumberyard definitely favors scouts, or possibly some custom maps Ive never played. Scouts are shitty in most cases, end of story
Im betting you play on 32 instaspawn servers? You can bounce around a dumb uber team, or maybe send one of them flying. But a experienced pair wont let that happen. Yet the scout can halt both fire, and mobility.
If you are playing for just kills, scouts the wrong class. I agree with you, now stop playing him that way!
EricV
02-27-2009, 01:27 PM
haha k....yeah mostly full servers with fast respawn...thats how I likes it. I dunno man, even the best of experienced uber teams cant do much gainst some compression happy blasting pyros. Throw some lvl3 sentries in there and forget it. 1 team no matter how experienced is getting thru....at least 2, or 3 co-ordinated uber rushes on the other hand will do much better.
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