the last 2008 pres debate

[killingpeople]

shit. i missed it. i caught just the closing statements from the two, how was it and hook me up with a link to watch it in full k thx luv u with mouth

[Rob Galanakis]

http://www.myspace.com/mydebates

It was a good one. McCain finally showed some life and Obama showed how fucking cool and calm he is.

[aesir]

I'm sure Hulu will have it up soon if not already.

Debate was great. Best debate. Moderator was EXCELLENT.

Obama had amazing self control in not attacking McCain and ESPECIALLY not attacking Palin when given the question of if he thought she could hold the office of president. Smart though, Obama is winning and any negativity might hurt him.

This Joe the Plumber crap was annoying as hell.

[Rob Galanakis]

This Joe the Plumber crap was annoying as hell.

He is buddies with Joe Sixpack.

[aesir]

I might care about him if he didnt make more than 250k a year...

[Ferg]

I try to be pretty evenly critical, and I thought they both floundered badly at the last debate, but in this one I think Obama kicked the shit out of McCain.

[AstroZombie]

I might care about him if he didnt make more than 250k a year...

Well, to McCain that makes him just above the poverty line.

Did anyone else catch that McCain wants to tax health benefits which would in effect raise taxes? What next? Perhaps he can also tax workers on employers providing coffee and donuts at work ...

[milla]

I'm trying to find out how the world would vote, if it could. Can any non-Americans who read this please go here?:

http://iftheworldcouldvote08.blogspot.com/

I'm expecting Obama to win, but would like to find out if I'm right, what the margin would be, and hoping to get a decent-sized sample while I'm at it :)

[JasonLavoie]

I was ready for them to throw down!!!!

Really interesting debate, and I think the best out of the 3... I don't know, personally I don't see how Obama can lose, unless Mccain pulls a nice big fat rabbit out of his magic hat, and Palin wasn't it :P

BOOYAA

[rootdown]

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/1237/mccain_buggin.gif

[JasonLavoie]

uh oh... it has begun!

[Thegodzero]

its up
http://www.hulu.com/watch/39435/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-and-obamas-final-debate

[Smirnoffka]

Being an outsider, completely ignorant to everything that is going on, and watching that debate today, I would have to say I'd vote for Obama. Hell, even without that debate, I'd vote for Obama. He just seems more...... Cool.

EDIT:

I guess this speaks for itself

http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results

Holy shit man.

[JohnnyRaptor]

I'm trying to find out how the world would vote, if it could. Can any non-Americans who read this please go here?:

http://iftheworldcouldvote08.blogspot.com/

I'm expecting Obama to win, but would like to find out if I'm right, what the margin would be, and hoping to get a decent-sized sample while I'm at it :)



Obama FTW

[Geezus]

I'm trying to find out how the world would vote, if it could. Can any non-Americans who read this please go here?:

http://iftheworldcouldvote08.blogspot.com/

I'm expecting Obama to win, but would like to find out if I'm right, what the margin would be, and hoping to get a decent-sized sample while I'm at it :)

Caught this in this month's Reader's Digest (perfect magazine for dropping a deuce.):

http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/the-global-presidential-poll-all-countries/article102259.html

The graph isn't there from the actual magazine, which is odd. Basically, out of 17 countries (including the US), Obama had a SIGNIFICANT lead.....except in the US where he was 2% below McCain. 0.o

[Mark Dygert]

McCain on Acorn:“I don’t care about an old, washed-up terrorist. But as Senator Clinton said in her debates with you, we need to know the full extent of that relationship. We need to know the full extent of Senator Obama’s relationship with Acorn, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.”

Obama on Acorn:“And I think the fact that this has become such an important part of your campaign, Senator McCain, says more about your campaign than it says about me.”

Anyone else think the Acorn "scandal" is McCain's way of laying the ground work for a Bush style coup? It's ok if he looses it just has to be close and in a state they can control.

I liked that McCain got the answers he was harping about over the last 2 weeks. Too bad they didn't turn out to be the answers he wanted to hear.

On a side note I think Firefox is partisan, it thinks McCain is a word but spell checks Obama. Conspiracy, I think so...

[Vailias]

But he sure makes a tasty tater
http://www.mccainusaretail.com/

[Mark Dygert]

He is buddies with Joe Sixpack.
Hardly, there's about 200k between the two...

[Jackablade]

I guess this speaks for itself

http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results

Holy shit man.
Macedonia seems to be out of step with the rest of the world. I wonder what conclusions could be drawn from that.

[ElysiumGX]

I haven't finished watching the whole thing, but...

Does anyone else think Hulu has the most depressing video advertisements?

[Mark Dygert]

I'm just glad the Splenda ads are over...

[Toomas]

But he sure makes a tasty tater
http://www.mccainusaretail.com/

McAnus are tail??? WTF???

[Marcus Dublin]

Poll: Debate watchers say Obama wins: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/15/debate.poll/index.html

[notman]

I wish Obama had hit McCain on a few points, but I guess he was trying to reduce the attacks to appear more calm. For instance, all that crap McCain was saying about correcting people (and suggesting Obama should do the same). Obama should have came back with, "When do you plan on correcting your running mate?"
The other thing was, McCain kept saying he wouldn't raise taxes... so does he considering ADDING taxes different than raising taxes? Because if he starts taxing my health care, then he's adding taxes that I currently don't pay. I don't care if I get a tax break at the end of the year if I'm going broke paying the taxes throughout the year.

He came across as erratic and antsy. The moderator pointed out how erratic was used in the attack ads, but he was being very erratic... so sorry, but the term fits. I liked how more active McCain was, but he had nothing to sway my vote.

[killingpeople]

mccain blinked a lot!

[notman]

He's not use to staying up that late... he wasn't blinking, just repeatedly waking up |-)

[ericleekessler]

mccain is just upset he is losing to a black muslim arab terrorist... i mean barrack obama.

[ElysiumGX]

Notman: haha.

I'm not going to encourage a debate on counting how many times each candidate blinks. I'll write up a more detailed opinion of the debates later. But, I did notice that McCain blinks an excessive amount when he's trying to piece together an answer that's favorable to him. Could that be a give away that he's lying? Either way, his answers never seems clear, when the questions asked would be more easily answered by Obama's stance on issues.

[RazorBladder]

I just loved how well Obama was able to defend himself per allegation from McCain, especially that Bill Ayers crap :]

Milla - I think pretty much the entirety of Europe favour Obama by a pretty huge margin... Unfortunately it also tends to provide pretty biased media coverage over here.

[Mark Dygert]

He also licks his lips/teeth when he's thinking, it pauses his speech when he does it, pretty annoying and possibly another tell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIZLg_lmx10

Obama has his share of tells but most are pretty subtle. I'm not sure if I want to know when and if a president is lying... I'm not if I want other countries to know when he/she is lying either heh...

[notman]

You know, I love how Obama completely debunked the 'joe plumber' issue paying more taxes, then McCain went right back to explain how Obama's going to tax the crap out of Joe. It's like he didn't even listen to the response.

[MoP]

Notman: He's probably counting on people who are undecided not listening to Obama's response either.
It seems a lot of the time in these debates a candidate will correct their opponent, only for the opponent to continue saying the exact same thing which was just refuted, but louder this time.
To people who aren't really following the debate fully, they might end up only remembering the last thing that was said, even if it was completely wrong and had been disproven only a minute ago.

[notman]

Yeah, I agree... I'm just so tired of politics and the damn games. Just tell me what the hell YOU'RE going to do, not what the other guy has/is doing :/ I guess that's too much to ask for though.

[ElysiumGX]

That's been ongoing for all these debates. McCain states a false claim, or a potshot, and Obama craftfully debunks it, only for McCain to continue pressing it. I think what's important to know is, while Obama is defending himself with answer...McCain doesn't have to answer for himself. Perhaps I strategy. I think Obama said it well, and was clear, when he said "this says more about your campaign, than mine".

[rooster]

go to my debates myspace, click the closing remarks of the last debate and view the first frame of the video (drag time slider to start)

[JO420]

Most Europeans i meet are in favor of Obama although during the primaries i met quite a few in favor of Hilary though. McCain is widely seen as more of the Buah era type of politics and Sarah Palin as flat out scary/funny.

[diminished_Self]

http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/10/motivator342953-1.jpg

god i love this.

[artstream]

My favorite part (so far) is how Obama really starts to lose his stability when asked "Is Palin qualified to be president?" Hahaha...

[hawken]

here you go.

90 mins of bullshit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7673090.stm

[Jeremy Wright]

This Joe the Plumber crap was annoying as hell.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/8FtSpider/mcmaverick.jpg

[ElysiumGX]

Sinfest is great. And super political lately.

Also entertaining http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7675927.stm

[Mark Dygert]

Looks like Joe the plumber isn't actually a licensed plumber and his name is Sam.
The whole thing reminds me of the heckler in Happy Gilmore... (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0280886/)
"Hey McCain I'll meet you at Red Lobster later right? Right!? Hello?..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49F57Q20081017

[ElysiumGX]

I find it more amusing that Joe (Sam) the Plumber is against Obama raising taxes on an income that he will never earn as a Plumber. I think it was cheap for McCain to invite him unwillingly into the debates. And I think it's silly to depict Joe as the average American. So far, according to the Republican Party, the average American either a) fixes busted pipes, b) drinks lots of beer, or c) fights in Iraq. Sounds like a dream come true.

[Mark Dygert]

Judging by the people that show up to their rallies I can see where they get those kinds of ideas...

[Jeremy Wright]

So far, according to the Republican Party, the average American either a) fixes busted pipes, b) drinks lots of beer, or c) fights in Iraq. Sounds like a dream come true.

I find the GOP sound bites totally unappealing. Joe Sixpack, Joe the Plumber, Pals around w/ terrorists, Hockey Moms, etc. Do people really respond to this shit.

I'm sorry, but anybody making over $250,000 isn't going to get any sympathy from me for having to pay a 3% tax increase.

btw, Sinfest is pretty great; I really give it to that guy for never missing an update deadline. He updates EVERY DAY; that's unheard of with webcomics.

[Pseudo]

These are fantastic!

Barack Standup Comedy at a fundraiser:
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6054516

McCain standup:
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6054486

[Mark Dygert]

Obama sounds like he "could-have" written his own material. McCain was funny but couldn't take his eyes off his note cards. But to be fair what he said about Obama sounded heart felt and like the old McCain. Hopefully if he looses he won't be a bitter old crank but an ally.