View Full Version : english won't dominate as world language
hawken
08-12-2005, 03:08 AM
better start learning Chinese guys...
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4387421/
Rick Stirling
08-12-2005, 04:20 AM
Firefly?
I'd always recommend learning a secord or third language.
thnom
08-12-2005, 04:46 AM
As far as I see it, English is the major language in: the UK, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Other countries who speak English as a second language include the Scandanavians, Holland and others. None of them involve Chinese, and if I were to learn an new learn -- It'd probably be Dutch.
The article takes a popular stance, though: "Its happening in America, that means the world, too".
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A multi-lingual population is already the case in much of the world and is becoming more common in the United States. Indeed, the Census Bureau reported last year that nearly one American in five speaks a language other than English at home, with Spanish leading, and Chinese growing fast.
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Spanish not being used in England (I've NEVER seen a Spaniard moved over here) and Chinese people often here just for university and such.
firestarter
08-12-2005, 05:01 AM
The next world language will be... Esperanto!!!
I have more hasty, ill thought out, sweeping statements too. Just like this fool. What dialect of Chinese? There`s like 10 or more of them...
sumguy
08-12-2005, 05:03 AM
Wo hui shuo zhong wen!!
Mi espaniol es no bueno.
CheapAlert
08-12-2005, 05:04 AM
Chinese won't dominate the world it'll just dominate China
china isn't the world because there's billions living there in population count
thnom
08-12-2005, 05:20 AM
Yeh, isn't China the country where they put a law down to limit families to only 1 kid, anymore and you pay?
Rick Stirling
08-12-2005, 05:23 AM
thnom you've never seen a spaniard move to the UK? My word, do you leave the house?
Foehammer
08-12-2005, 05:24 AM
i live in Texas and we were just declared the 4th state to have a minority majority, better get on the spanish bus if you live here.
meh doesn't bother me much. I plan on learning japanese. I'd like to learn german, french, italian and such. at least the basics so when I go on my ever s long planned trip to tour europe I can communicate decently.
Irritant
08-12-2005, 06:18 AM
I'd like to learn Spanish since I spend time in Mexico every year.
JKMakowka
08-12-2005, 07:02 AM
These statistics don't take into account that only approximatly 200 million chinese live in the industrialized south east, the rest is pretty much completely unimportant.
It just doesn't matter if there are 1 billion farmers (and as sad as it is also what you could call modern 'work-slaves') somewhere in central China, because you will never get into any buisness (or other kind of) relation with them anyways.
Still those 200 million are a strong reason to learn Chinese /images/graemlins/wink.gif
(the same is btw even more true for those indish languages)
ElysiumGX
08-12-2005, 07:08 AM
I will learn Spanish. Maybe even German. But I WILL NOT learn Chinese! /images/graemlins/mad.gif
...er, Cantonese. Whatever.
lkraan
08-12-2005, 07:19 AM
We speak 3 languages at home...My wife and I speak English, I speak Dutch to our kids and my wife speaks French to them. It can get a bit messy at the dinner table since we don't have a family language. So far the kids aren't confused and pick it up very fast.
I must learn French though because my kids are starting to speak it better than I do /images/graemlins/frown.gif
As long as there are numbers on the menu's I won't learn Chinese /images/graemlins/smile.gif
StrangeFate
08-12-2005, 07:32 AM
i speak 5 languages and had to do the localizations for Pariah* in 3 of those, think i'm good for whatever comes.
*Pariah wasn't done by us, just helped wrap it up at the end, and do all the translations /images/graemlins/frown.gif
sundance
08-12-2005, 12:34 PM
i refuse to learn a language which doesn't use an alphabet like english. so, there goes anything other than spanish, portugese, italian and french and german. and i'm terrible at the last 2.
english is already the dominant world language. it's spoken as first language in the UK, Ireland, Canada, USA, Australia, NZ, and large parts of the caribbean as well as a second language in about 1/3 of africa, the indian sub-continent and elsewhere. it's already become the dominant language of the net and is the language of air travel.
english is also singapore's dominant language. Though it is hard to pick up singlish if you aren't already used to the far east accents.
-R
aesir
08-12-2005, 01:13 PM
I found the article slightly hard to believe in that english will stop being the world's dominant language. None of the facts they showed really pointed toward that. If anything it just seems as though many people are becoming bilingual by learning English in addition to their native language. Wouldnt that contribute to English dominance? Its true that as China develops and greater numbers of Chinese spread across the world, their language could become a standard in many areas, but as of now the trend is still for Chinese to learn foreign languages rather than for us to learn Chinese. my rant stopped making sense a while ago so i'll stop here...
JO420
08-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Id just learn another language to pick up hot Asain chicks
Raven
08-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Majority of counteries across the world learn English as a second language. It's really more dominant because the English-Speaking world makes up the bulk of the worlds economy.
As such nations have to learn English to be able to compete in the world. Why? Because the English-Speaking nations are crap at (or rather most are unwilling) learning other languages.
I personally speak a nice wide selection, but I can only read/write a few. (even then it's not exactly that well)
Think is though even when I'm abroad most of the time when someone picks up I speak English they will also speak it. So you don't generally need to speak the native language unless you come across someone who doesn't understand English.
At the end of the day, I've had very little in the way of language barriers when visiting my cousin in Japan, or friends in Russia, etc. Most of the time I'm able to just speak English without worrying about my poor variations of thier native language.
As most of the world actually panders to our lazy nature, it's likely that English is going to continue to be the language of choice for some time.
I've also noticed that quite a number of other nations will learn English rather than another native language.
So it's used quite a bit as an intermediate language.
God knows why. It's a horribly inaccurate language, far too open to mis-understanding.
gauss
08-12-2005, 09:16 PM
that's kinda the nature of language in general--approximation. english is a real mutt, to be sure, but every language has its strengths and weaknesses, nice bits and ugly bits. if there is any huge dominant shift in language, it's not like it's going to happen overnight. we'll have time to listen to the "how-to-learn" audio tapes /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Weiser_Cain
08-12-2005, 10:24 PM
Had a long post in mind but I'll save all of us a bit of time.
No it wont.
Mishra
08-12-2005, 10:27 PM
i can swear in mandarin does that count
i can also swear in russian, spanish, german, a little in hebrew.
thats all that really matters
Raven
08-13-2005, 05:33 AM
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we'll have time to listen to the "how-to-learn" audio tapes
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We get to a word we don't know we would still talk very slowly and loudly in English. (heh like that EVER helps)
Weiser_Cain
08-13-2005, 07:04 AM
I wouldn't go anywhere I could ask where the bathroom is, which is everywhere as the pee-dance is universal.
StrangeFate
08-13-2005, 08:04 AM
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Id just learn another language to pick up hot Asain chicks
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I'd learn chinese or ANY language just for that!
Weiser_Cain
08-13-2005, 10:34 AM
You could just learn english as there are plenty of asian gals here.
Rhinokey
08-13-2005, 11:11 AM
i can say "does it bite?" in klingon
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