Lowpoly elf girl

[DemonPrincess]

Hiya everyone! I'm trying to de-lurk a bit, LOL. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Here's something I've been working on. It's a lowpoly elf girl (600 tris to be exact).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/wayuki/ember_smoothshaded01.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/wayuki/ember_flatshaded.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/wayuki/ember_smoothshaded02.gif

I haven't really decided on the colors yet, I was just testing. I got her unwrapped, so I will start texturing her soon.

[KMan]

I think that's a really good use of your polys there. For how low you are going, and what style, I'd almost scale the hands up a bit more. The same goes for the nose.

The proportions are nice and fit well with the style.

[FatAssasin]

Nice proportions. Looks good man. What size texture are you going to use?

[Dhin]

She looks great DP (I hope you don't mind me calling you DP, DemonPrincess is just too long to type, though I just did so don't see why I'm complaining . . . but I digress,) I always love seeing you work, it's very fresh, sexy and stylish. I can't wait to see more. Keep it up Lady.

[KDR_11k]

The boots could use some more verts or at least a bit of rearranging to be less blocky.
Oh and are you still using Milkshape?

[ElysiumGX]

Nice one, D. Piddy. Love those hips. The boots looks a little large from the side angle. Perhaps bring the back top section more towards her leg.

[MoP]

Great style as usual, although I agree with KMan, the hands could be larger to match the bigger-than-normal feet.
I also agree with KDR_11k, a few more verts in the boots would round them out a little, at that size I think they should be slightly less blocky.
Also I think the face looks very flat from the side view, I think this is accentuated by the sharp chin, maybe just add an extra vert in the middle at the bottom of the face to round out the chin and jaw line in the profile?
Nice colours. Hope you get this little elf lass textured!
Looks great for only 600 tris, keep it up!

MoP

[sundance]

cute. quit lurking j00 secksie modeller. love that avatar btw.

[Zeldrik]

Very cute!

[adam]

I was lovin' this model until the image fully loaded and I saw her boots. I know you have a modelling style Demon but her boots seem a wee bit too large for me. The rest of her is awesome though. Now yah just gotta skin her!

[moose]

thats awesome /images/graemlins/smile.gif i really dig your recent models you've posted

sdk! (you know you want to be the first SDK on the new boards! /images/graemlins/wink.gif)

[Conor]

Cool, but the boots are a bit over the top. Scale them down to a little more normal I think and she'll be better, but still have the cute look.

[DemonPrincess]

Thanks for the comments, everyone! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I made the hands a little bit bigger and the boots a little bit smaller (especially in the side view). Here's what it looks like now (old version is on the left, edited version on the right):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/wayuki/ember_resized.gif

I tried adding a vert to the chin, but I thought it actually looked worse, so I left it be.

I also made an SDK if anyone wants it.
The file includes 2 versions of the model. One is segmented at the waist for the use in Quake 3: Arena, because that's what I intend to port her to if I get around animating her. The other version is the one you see in the thread. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You can pick up the SDK from this page:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/torquebimini/

Available formats are ms3d, 3ds and md3. She's mapped on a single texture sheet. I've included both a 256x256 and a 512x512 version in the SDK.

[IceWolve]

Some one should texture her like a warcraft night elf!

[moose]

damn ice, mind reader /images/graemlins/wink.gif

got the sdk, hopefully ill find some time soon to do a skin for her. iz badass!

[IceWolve]

hehe srry can't find the off switch :P

[Sean McBride]

Yeah this is awesome DemonPrincess! I'll be doing a skin in my spare time /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[ElysiumGX]

Already started. I like her, and it's good practice for me. Having some trouble with alphas, but progress so far...

http://www.elysiumvisions.com/images/ember/emberwip1.jpg

[moose]

http://bb.mooseskins.com/neCute01.jpg

comin along, should have more progress later tonight

[NuclearTes]

@DemonPrincess: Lovely model DemonPrincess, but you already know that. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

@ElysiumGX: Cool work so far. I love the big eyes.

@moose: I love the high contrast metal ornaments. They are very crisp and the design is beautiful.

[Zeldrik]

Going for the Warcraft night elf colours eh moose? Its looking great, I agree with Tes nice design and very crisp.

[moose]

NT and zel, thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif

yah, she is a WoW Night Elf /images/graemlins/smile.gif some fan art i guess. I put some of the pieces in there that would make her recognizable as a NE (boob hook things), while still being able to come up with my own stuff. I want to keep pretty true to the wow ne, and have some fun at the same time /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[IceWolve]

Looking realy good moose, i realy like how you are making good use of transparencys like on the hip attachment thingies.

[poopinmymouth]

I could not resist.
About an hours worth.
http://www.poopinmymouth.com/net/pcount/dp_01.jpg

[ElysiumGX]

a bit more

http://www.elysiumvisions.com/images/ember/emberwip2.jpg

[moose]

http://bb.mooseskins.com/necute03.jpg

more here too, getting closer

[ElysiumGX]

steady as she goes

http://www.elysiumvisions.com/images/ember/emberwip3.jpg

damn, you guys are good.
I could use some advice.

[DH_]

in before soul with a gothy one

http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/horribledeath/ember_wip1.jpg

this model has some nice character, nice job on it demonprincess. its nice to do some old school stuff again too.

[DemonPrincess]

Wow guys, these are turning out really great! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[SouL]

DH, you fucker!
Awesome model, DP. Very clean and well built.

[Snowfly]

Just playing around..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/DP1.jpg

[moose]

dh, snowfly, kickass /images/graemlins/smile.gif hot!!

grid... Elysium: thats look cool, i dig the lace up clothes /images/graemlins/smile.gif not to sure about the tattoo, i think the arms could hold up without it. You may want to try adding more texture to the brown clothing, to really set it off from the skin. maybe some thickness would help it too (edges, slight shadows). those are some big ass eyes too, but they're kinda cool like that.

dig how you handled the hair snowfly... heh thats smart.

there are NEVER enough goth chicks, do one soul!

DH, that boob grabber design and those crazy panties rock. she's a cutie

im done for the night, i may come back to it and tweak some things:

http://bb.mooseskins.com/necute04.jpg

[Jes]

Moose watched that WoW Cinematic trailer WAY too much.. :P
Nicely done, though..

Snowfly: Neat, although the pants just seem to start out of nowhere!?

Ely, that thing is HOTT!! /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[rawkstar]

cool stuff everyone, here's mine:

http://www.t3h-v.com/3dmodels/elfchick_skin.jpg

a bit of overnight fun at 256 resolution. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MoP]

Awesome stuff guys. And girl. This is what you get for releasing the first SDK on the new forums (surely it has nothing to do with the fact that it's a great model to texture...)!

Just... great to look at. Damn, I'm gonna have to go overboard on mine then!

MoP

[poopinmymouth]

Awesome snowfly! I love how your painting style works on this model. Just great in the face. Moose and DH you guys are rocking my cock. I had to pick it up off the floor cause it got rocked off. Dh, your hair came out awesome, alpha some of it, PLEASE! Moose, I liked the skin tone of the wip you showed me last night a bit better, it was more blue ish. Rockstar, yours came out very cool, I like it. It has your typical face texture, and shiny metal bits, but thats what we all love about you! 8-) Now get a job slacker. Oh yeah, put fire in her nipples too. 8-)
Grindy, Could we see a shot at full bright? I think right now you might have gotten too deep into the detail work without doing enough broad scale light and volume. She could use some kind of overlay on the leather to pump up the interest level. Looking cool though man. 8-)

[ElysiumGX]

Poop: Viewport shot from Wings. Figured out how to do full bright.

http://www.elysiumvisions.com/images/ember/emberwip4.jpg

Wasn't sure how to handle the lighting because I'm trying for a more simplistic character to match the mesh, but I'll try to hint at more shapes. I plan to add more to the leather. In fact, I think I'm going to wake til next weekend, and brainstorm what I should add to her.

moose: thanks for the advice. the tattoo is gone. I like big eyes, but not in the anime sense. Eyes really bring life to a character, I believe. Very cool metal designs on yours.

Snowfly: that's cool. very smooth texture. I think it's my favorite atm.

DH: Holy hell. Now I know what Poop means by lighting and volume. That's excellent.

Rawkstar: She's hot.

[JKMakowka]

Awesome work everyone, but I have to crit the faces:

I think Snowfly got it best, but maybe a bit too cute;
moose's looks way to manish, mr_Rockstar's eyes are way to low and ElysiumGX's eyes are way too big I think.

[moose]

yeah, the face was the one area i was planning on revisiting after looking at it fresh today. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[sundance]

i like grind's and fly's. the clothes on moose's are noice, but i'm not keen on hot pink skin...

DH's pic is taking ages to load.

[IceWolve]

Looking realy good, great work so far moose. dh_, im realing liking that dark tone you got on her.

[poopinmymouth]

snuck in some more work at lunch
http://www.poopinmymouth.com/net/pcount/dp_02.jpg

[qubism]

http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/knutschfresseflat.jpg http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/knutschfressem.jpg

a quick start on it. dunno what i should make out of it ...

[MoP]

wow tom, great start. your usual control of highlights and saturation there, but a totally different style from what i remember /images/graemlins/smile.gif
the hair is painted excellently. just needs some opacity-mapping on the front there and it will be perfect.
the nice rosy cheeks and highlighting remind me of old 1950's style childrens book illustration, which is nice /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I just think the style of the body texture doesn't match the style of the face and hair... maybe try a different colourscheme on that? can't wait to see it finished though.
and hey, i'm on IRC right now!

[Jeff Parrott]

Here is what I got done so far. The idea is there, but it's still really rough.

http://jeffparrott.com/work/elfgirl.jpg

[MoP]

Good start Jeff, but if I were you I'd move the eyes outwards from the centre of the face, and maybe scale them up a little too - she's got a wide face on the model, and the eye placement and thinness of the mouth is making her look like she has huge fat cheeks at the moment. Also I'd use a more saturated highlight on the leaves, slightly yellowy-green, will give them a little more "life", if you know what I mean!

MoP

[Makk]

meh...
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/elfwip1.jpg

WIP so crits are very welcome.

Great work guys /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MoP]

Makk: nice start, i like where you're going with the clothes. However as I think and other people have mentioned, this model doesn't really suit small eyes in a "natural" position... you have to go kinda extreme with the eyes to make the face look right, IMHO. Keep it up though!

Anyway, hmm, Ember is the name? Here's a WIP start on my skin i'm calling "Esmerelda" ... heheh

Hot gypsy elves, anyone?

http://www.spearmint.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ember.jpg

just started the face really, the rest is all just blocked in colour.

MoP

[sundance]

makk, that's foxy

[poopinmymouth]

I love the head, and I love the body, but not the two together. They dont really mix style wise, as mop has pointed out.

Hair is really cool though.

[poopinmymouth]

It's poison ivy!

Looking good Jeffro, I am with mop on the face, and overall there could stand to be a bit more shading and color variation.

[FatAssasin]

These are all awesome. I'm amazed at how many different looks you can get out of one model. I'd have to say my faves so far are Moose's and Mr_Rockstar's. That battle armour elf looks like she's ready to kick some ass.

[_Shimmer]

hmm, really cool so far.
Everbody in the list:

DHs was a bit unspectecular but nevertheless good. Some highlights may add somethhing to it

Rockstar, very cool idea and good contrasts. You should maybe add a color contrast like blue or something like that to get out of this "muddy" look. Also white highlight would help defining the shaes better.

Tom, good start, a bit too shiny if you ask me. maybe its because im in school right now, and the monitors are horribly calibrated.

mop, good start. generic, but good.

hmm when i find time i maybe contribute something to this thread /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[NuclearTes]

Great work everyone! Keep it up! If I wasn't working on another skin right now, I would have given it a try aswell.

@Snowfly: I really like how you painted the hair and face. The outfit could still use some more detail, I think, but I like the overall feel to it.

@moose: Great work as allways. /images/graemlins/wink.gif I think it might look better though, if you added some blue/cyan tones, maybe even a little brown, to the skin to pull everything a little bit more together. You could also give her hair a hint of purple.

@mr_Rockstar: I love your skin. Your skin has a very classic feel to it.

ElysiumGX: I really like the simplicty you're going for design wise, but I think it would look nice, if you added some more wrinkles to the pants in the crotch area for instance. You could also add some wrinkles to her armpits.

@poop: Could you post some renders aswell? I'm very curious how you skin is going to look like on the model. (I can't wrap it around it myself now, because I'm currently at school.) /images/graemlins/wink.gif

@qubism: Do you know where I can buy that top? I think it would be a great addition to my wardrobe. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Great work so far. I like her curly hair and big shiny cheeks.

@jeffro: I'm with Mop on this one. I like the idea you're going for though. Green is one of my favorite colors and I really like the nature look.

@Makk: I agree with MoP about the eyes, but I really like the glossy feel her lips have. I think the outfit could use some more highlights and shawdows. But it may just be me, 'cause I love everything shiny and high in contrast. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

@MoP: The face is just great. It really has the gypsy feel to it. I can't wait to see the outfit, when it's finished.

[Makk]

Well, an update on my lame attempt-
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/elfwip2.jpg

Mop: yeah was thinking that about the eyes as well, made em a bit bigger. Hope its an improvement.

Sundance: thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tes: I hope you like her new shiny leather arms /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[JKMakowka]

@mop: Great face, and definitly keep the colors... that would make her the first x-mas model of the season /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[qubism]

http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/schokoladeflat.jpg http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/schokoladeflat2.jpg
CHOCLATE!!! and a bit further

oi paul :P yea i was after that kind of look for the face.
i tried a cool technique for the hair so it was quick and easy. the outfit was just a sketch and i polished it cuz i had no ideas in that moment. however i tried something different since shotgun allways adviced me to put more work in to the concept of the whole thing.

btw i must say i love when the whole pc crowd is skinning one model. allways a pleasure to see what we all can come up with!

[Jeff Parrott]

Did some real quick tweaks that MoP suggested.

http://www.jeffparrott.com/work/elfgirl02.jpg

[qubism]

hey jeff. i dont know exactly how u work. maybe u lay out
all the details and then start shading the whole thing to
get depth into it. if so nevermind. if not id suggest to get
some shadows in there.

also u got that shadow from the
hair. notice something? i do. it doesnt work very well with
the other shading u did on the flesh. personally i dislike
it.
u prolly have just made a pure black ontop of it.
depending on your tonality id suggest to work with the
colors u use in the shadows. red or blue i your case its
reddish as i can tell from the knees.


back to the shading. i see a problem with not shading the
big shapes first and shading the details first.
has to do with the light situation. do u know where the
light is supposed to come from yet? it to be seen not just
on the overall shade also the details got that little
highlights that have to go with the light situation. im not
good at explaining.. well i hope it made a bit sence

further i have to say that u might want to reconsider the
way u layed out your leaves. its rather busy looking u might
want to concentrate on simple shapes. maybe bigger leaves
with accents of small leaves. or some sticks of wood. also u
can put in some color variation for an autumn look maybe ?
/images/graemlins/wink.gif

and makk heres something for u.
http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/makkoverp.jpg

[ElysiumGX]

still WIP. small improvements. started on wrinkles. smaller eyes. they were a little TOO big. color adjustments. overlays.

thanks for the help everyone.

http://www.elysiumvisions.com/images/ember/emberwip5.jpg

[Jeff Parrott]

Yeah I usually try to build up the character slowly. I just have had time to get certain sections done so far. I will start adding shadows in soon. I don't care for the shadow either, I'm going to just make that part of the hair more transparent and make a real light shadow. I like the idea of using red for it though. I'll rework the leaves a bit, they do get a bit jumbled at 256. I will see how bigger ones look instead. I like that idea. Also there is no real light scheme either and that really hurts this.

Thanks for the awesome crit qub. I really appreciate it. I'll rework most of this soon.

[NuclearTes]

[ QUOTE ]
Tes: I hope you like her new shiny leather arms /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Yes, I like them very much. I don't think your skin is a lame attempt at all. http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly112.gif

[moose]

[ QUOTE ]

btw i must say i love when the whole pc crowd is skinning one model. allways a pleasure to see what we all can come up with!


[/ QUOTE ]

I AGREE!

even if people dont spend a ton of time on a given thing, it is definately a great way to help build the community, and keep everyone on their toes with improvements.

heh i'm going to do another skin after seeing everyone's work, 'sgot me all jazzed up. hoooha!

[poopinmymouth]

http://www.poopinmymouth.com/net/pcount/dp_03.jpg

Still plugging away when I get a few minutes break.

[Hollowmind]

Thought I'd have a go at this, too. Seems like it's been a long while since the community contributed multiple skins to one model. And I've never finished any of mine when we've done it in the past. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif But this time I will finish! I promise! hehe I need something to waste time on at work anyway. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://skragbait.homestead.com/files/hollowmind_ember_skin.jpg

[oDD]

DH_: already looks great, you need to finish it
Snowfly: Love the face
everyone is doing a great job

here is my slow and small start

http://img48.exs.cx/img48/4980/lalka_01.jpg

i got two questions

1. back of the hair is invisble, Why ? because i used the 3ds format and i doesnt store the doble side faces ? or somthing like that ?
2. We are supossed to make them 256x256 or can we go 512x512 ?

[Hollowmind]

I think it's your choice what size texture you want to use. I just used 256 cause this is such a low poly model and I haven't painted a 256 texture in ages, hehe. Feeling a little nostalgia with this one. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[poopinmymouth]

Man I love this little model, so much fun. 8-)

http://www.poopinmymouth.com/net/pcount/dp_04.jpg

[sundance]

no offense poop, but i think all the body jewellery/tats/whatever is a bit over-done, it makes it look too busy.

[moose]

odd, select the hair and turn off backface culling in the properties. max is stupid sometimes.

[NuclearTes]

Ok, I've finally decided to skin this model, although I still have lots of other unfinished projects. http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/polytwitch.gif Here's a WIP:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/nucleartes/nt-elf.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/nucleartes/nt-elf-skinmap.png

[sundance]

nice cleavage

[JBoskma]

How could I have missed this?! Looks like everybody has missed the community sdk's /images/graemlins/smile.gif Coll stuff all.

[b1ll]

OMG, Im joining this for sure, yus

MOOSE' DH' ODD I DIG

Pooop u turn the model into a mAN SHAME

b1ll

[DemonPrincess]

[ QUOTE ]

i got two questions

1. back of the hair is invisble, Why ? because i used the 3ds format and i doesnt store the doble side faces ? or somthing like that ?
2. We are supossed to make them 256x256 or can we go 512x512 ?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. It's not double-sided, just turn off the backface culling. If I port it to a game, I will write a shader to render those parts on both sides. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2. Feel free to use any resolution you like!

[Hollowmind]

Here's an update to my skin of her. Think I'm pretty much finished with her although I will take into consideration any crits I get. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I can't think of a name for her.

http://skragbait.homestead.com/files/Hollowmind_ember_skin_update1.jpg

[MoP]

OMG BOOBEYES

nice skin hollowmind - i like the gothy netting stuff, and the costume. i think the highlights on her flesh need some more saturation and colour variation though, just to give her a little more "life".
the hair is really well done, I reckon - nice work there!
the boots could maybe use a little more design and shading?

Poop: Hmm, I'm not liking yours so much - b1ll is right, the face is really masculine and I don't like that look.
the hands are great, but the armour on the chest and shoulders doesn't make much sense - how is it attached? also the cloth (or what is it? i can't understand what material that is supposed to be) around her waist and legs looks weird, i think the shadows are too bright and saturated.

NuclearTes: great start, nice pixelly-sharpness, keeps with the style of your previous skins I've seen but looks much more refined and technically accomplished - keep up the good work!

MoP

[Hollowmind]

MoP: Thanks for the compliments and the suggestions. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Here's a quick update. I'm not quite sure what to do with the boots. Footwear has never been a strong point of mine, hehe. I'll have to look up some ref pics sometime later. I've only been working on this skin while I'm at work and it's almost time for me to go home. So anymore updates will have to wait til Monday. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://skragbait.homestead.com/files/Hollowmind_ember_skin_update2.jpg

[poopinmymouth]

Thanks for the crits mop. The face is pretty much 100% where I was going with it. I wanted her to look mean, have an angular almost masculine face, and yet still be female. I feel personally that I hit that mark.
The pants are made out of bubbly transparent vinyl. I am going to go back in and work on them some more as I go, but for this project I really just wanted to go full out saturation do whatever-the-hell I want color and material wise.

Thanks for the feedback, I will definately keep it in mind.

[ElysiumGX]

@Hollowmind: /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

"stop staring at my boobs"
"but they're staring back at me"

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hollowmind]

Elysium: Hehehehehe, good one. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[moose]

hollowmind: shes lookin rad! her arms and legs (especially the backs of her legs) may be a little *too* muscular. the detail is nice though, i wouldnt take it all out, but maybe subdue it a little. The knees are rad! /images/graemlins/smile.gif not feelin the boob eyes though...

[HotRod2K5]

I rigged her up to the main female skeleton for Unreal Tournament (not 2K3/4). I'm gonna test run her & see if it works out, it'll be temp til DP make custom animations for The UTs for this elf. I'll let you all know how she does ingame.

[Sectaurs]

hollowmind, how about Eyelene

[ScoobyDoofus]

Im starting to rough her out here. We'll see where this goes.
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/mysterymachine/azure.jpg

[poopinmymouth]

looking cool scooby, Its got that great ambient shading. Cant wait to see it finished.

[sundance]

that's nice scoobs. i like that.

can't comment on hollow's all i'm seeing are red X's!

[timothyd]

http://timothyd.com/host/art/1.jpg

Just starting out, nothing anywhere near final yet.

[rawkstar]

yeya scoobs that looks sweet... warcraftish and all i like it keep going

[Thermidor]

Nice Tim , i like the skin tones /images/graemlins/smile.gif keep going !!

[HotRod2K5]

She works in Unreal Tournament(1999), though the arms had abit of problem, not so noticable now though. The cloth & hair don't move much if any. But that's due to using the normal UT female skeleton.

[Mangled Poly]

Awesome skins all!
Moose, i love those metal designs!
ben very colorfull way to use that pallete my only crit would be it does get a bit busy in the pants and could be hard to read depending on the type of game....
hollow: man yous is freaking me out!
Scooby: great shading man that is turning out stellar
dark: your little goth girl! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[poopinmymouth]

All done!
http://www.poopinmymouth.com/3d/ember_thumb.jpg (http://www.poopinmymouth.com/3d/ember.jpg)

http://www.poopinmymouth.com/3d/ember_tex.jpg

[SaToSaN]

Nice work poop, I really like the warm texture you gave her, it contrasts well with the skin tone.

[sundance]

wow hollow, that's freaky!

timothyd, nice top.

[rawkstar]

Aight poop that looks cool. but I think you might have rushed those boots... or somethin... like everything else is really cool, but the boots are kinda lame looking... I love the legs and the arms and the rest, but the boots... they just don't seem to work very well... maybe try and go for a more standard look for them? like when I look at them it doesn't autmatically register like... OK these are boots, it just looks like ... stuff, know what I'm saying.

[NuclearTes]

Here are some more progress pictures of my skin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/nucleartes/nt-elf-skinmap02.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/nucleartes/nt-elf-preview02.png

@Sundance:[ QUOTE ]
nice cleavage

[/ QUOTE ]You ol' dirty bastard /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif I've just finished her bottom aswell. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Thanks for the complement.

@MoP: [ QUOTE ]
great start, nice pixelly-sharpness, keeps with the style of your previous skins I've seen but looks much more refined and technically accomplished - keep up the good work!

[/ QUOTE ] I'm glad you like it! And about the pixelly-sharpness http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly112.gif: Just before I came back to polycount I completed a series of Zodiac Pixel Dolls. (http://www.nucleartes.iwebland.com/dolls/) It was a good practice for me, I guess. http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly120.gif

@Poop: I really like you're skin, but I don't think I like the boots all that much. I think they are a bit hard to read and would look better if you gave them the orange look you see in the rest of your skin.

[sundance]

lesss of the old thanks tess! i like your skin, coming together well there.

[Hollowmind]

Poop: I like the design of the boots but the red color of them does seem to clash with the rest of the skin. Although it does kinda look like you were going for somewhat of a yellow to red gradient look from top to bottom with her clothing. Perhaps if you had the top of the boots fade from orange to red then they would fit better with the rest of her clothing. Really nice skin though. I like the design of her and the detail. Just the color of the boots doesn't quite seem to fit right.

Tes: Nice job so far on her. Great consistency on the design of her clothing and her colors.

[Mojo2k]

well i see where poop was going withthe red boots, It looks like a gradiant over the clothes red att the bottom going up to a orange at top, i think it just looks a bit off because its the only bit of clothing with no yellowish highlites, and the red saturation seems a bit difrent than on the other parts of the skin

[Hollowmind]

I was just thinking, since this is such a low-poly and old school model we should make a Half-Life version, too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I'd be willing to work on that.

[poopinmymouth]

Oh yeah, anyone else notice the nose is duplicated? Its actually only 597 tris when you delete the three dupicate nose triangles.

[Mojo2k]

those were there so you could animate them shooting out of the head for the magical elf projectile nose attack

[ElysiumGX]

I noticed something was wrong with the nose. In my md3 viewer, there was no texture on those three triangles.

[DemonPrincess]

[ QUOTE ]
Oh yeah, anyone else notice the nose is duplicated? Its actually only 597 tris when you delete the three dupicate nose triangles.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for catching that, Poop! The files should be fixed now. /images/graemlins/blush.gif


@HotRod2K5: I wasn't exactly planning on making anims for UT... in fact, I don't even know how to port models to that game or what animations are needed. But, if the model works okay with the standard animations, it would be awesome if you could port her. http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly106.gif

@Hollowmind: It would be really cool if you could make a Half-Life version of the model! http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly142.gif


@Mojo2k: LOL @ the nose attack. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[sundance]

any chance someone could get her into UT2004?

[Red Crane]

Hey guys it's all looking so good that i had to try.. let me know what ya think. thanks.

http://www.ed-effect.com/images/3d3.jpg

[Sean McBride]

hey hey! Welcome to the boards. I like your style. The only crit i have is that the high contrast of the metal and the low contrast of the skin texture is kind of throwing off the balance. Mabey darken up some shadows and make the form of the skin texture a little deeper? Anyway, really nice. I like what you did with the peices coming from her hips.

[Red Crane]

Ahh yeah i se what u mean i'll see what i can do. thansk for the crit.

[Pseudo]

http://www.lunchboxcrew.com/3d/images/pseudoember.jpg

Im not very experienced with this whole texturing business, but I wanted to give it a try.

One of the things I noticed is that with a 256x256 there isn't a lot of room to go add in detail. In result, I keep coming out with very smooth textures that dont have the crisp feeling that they need (especially in the cloth and trim bits). Im not really sure how to combat that when I only have 3 and 4 pixel widths to deal with.

I have been using a 1 pixel brush, and I guess that a 1 pixel pencil may give sharper results, but it seems like that would take me forever for a very simple texture.

I will keep at it, any crits or things I might not have noticed would be greatly appreciated!

[ElysiumGX]

@Red Crane: Alright! It's the chick from White Zombie.

[MoP]

Red Crane: cool work there, I really like the clothing design, I agree about the flesh being too low contrast compared to the dark clothing though.

Pseudo: Great start, I like the colours and designs. The 1-pixel pencil brush is definitely a good way to go for detailing 256 textures... I usually sketch in details with 1-pixel paintbrush, then go in and tighten up the details with the pencil tool using sampled colour from the surrounding areas.
For a (imho PERFECT) example of squeezing huge amounts of detail out of a 256x256 texture, take a look at the body texture Bobo_the_Seal did for his Bunker model:
http://www.bobotheseal.com/personal_work/textures/bunker-final.jpg

Your texture still needs some very thin dark lines to accentuate the features of the face and changes in material, I think.
Keep at it, she should turn out great!

MoP

[poopinmymouth]

When talking about contrast, remember you have way more than just value to help sharpen textures. You can draw on hue contrast, warm/cool contrast, shadow color vs light color contrast, etc etc. Using all of them in conjunction will result in a sharper texture than just using values. I did a quick paintover to show what I mean. I used a warm highlight on the detail, and a cooler shadow, and like MOP said, used a one pixel brush extensively. A light right next to a dark, will make things pop alot more. Especially a warm light, next to a cool dark.
http://www.poopinmymouth.com/wip/pseudo_paintover.jpg

[dig dog dig]

Yay! Polycount is back /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cool model Demon Princess, I thought I'd have a go at her too.
http://daniel.ddsdesign.co.uk/Artwork/Ember1.jpg

[diZzyWalnut]

Hello,

Really lovely character this little elf; nice and easy mesh to animate.
I've done a small test :
http://www.miseryproduction.com/ember_run.html

[Jes]

After seeing that, I think an extra poly down there could help on the deforming.. o_O;

[DemonPrincess]

[ QUOTE ]
After seeing that, I think an extra poly down there could help on the deforming.. o_O;

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think that's needed... it depends on how you rig it. /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[diZzyWalnut]

[ QUOTE ]
After seeing that, I think an extra poly down there could help on the deforming.. o_O;

[/ QUOTE ]
...not really. I will look what I can dot mainly for her arms (elbow ).
Yeah , and I've forgotten to say that this animation was realized under CHARACTER FX (http://www.insanesoftware.de/index.php?page=cfx/screenshots.php) ( little soft ,verry cheap and verry funny to use)to exporte into DIRECT/.X , but the result can not be the same like under CHARACTER STUDIO de 3DS MAX ,.....I think so.
Anyway I'm still learning.

[ QUOTE ]

I don't think that's needed... it depends on how you rig it. /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
The mesh of Your ELF is right - I like it, like this.
Simply - it's REAL-REAL LOW POLY, isn't it.?! /images/graemlins/wink.gifSo the mesh doesn't needs any correction.
GO ON .

[qubism]

funny little animation that is. not fluid but i wonder if its flash or how u made it. im allmost done with my skin for it.
hope i can post it by tomorrow or the day after...

[diZzyWalnut]

[ QUOTE ]
funny little animation that is. not fluid but i wonder if its flash or how u made it. im allmost done with my skin for it.
hope i can post it by tomorrow or the day after...

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, it's FLASH who make slowly and not fluid this animation - ( and I didn't want make it heavy for a WEB ),
normally it's fluid ! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[diZzyWalnut]

A corection with FLASH is done - the animations shoud play faster now.
EXCUSE ME.

[diZzyWalnut]

A correction with FLASH is done - the animation should play faster now.
excuse me /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TechSmith]

Here's an early WIP. I don't know if I'll ever finish, since I have a long history of not finishing anything 2d/3d.

http://mypage.iu.edu/~daphipps/Images/ember4.jpg

[pior]

What a cool little model! Funny doll to play with too.

Just blocking shapes and colors atm... I feel like it lacks contrast tho. Will work on that!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/ember_pior_02.jpg

pior
www.pioroberson.com (http://www.pioroberson.com)

[qubism]

http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/choclatewip.JPG
heres my wip. still got a bit to do

[poopinmymouth]

Really nice man. I like the bronzy bits the best. The change from yellow hot specular and the inclusion of the orange reflect light really sells the material. I like the detail and the irregularity in the edges also. Right now I like everything but the hair and the face. the hair looks dry and brittle, like female african american hair that hasn't been taken care of. Give it some sheen, and make it a bit less dry looking. The face still looks too doll like for my tastes. I think its the bright, smooth cheek highlights. They make the cheeks read like bulbous balls of plastic, instead of skin. Your leather is coming out very nice though. Finish soon buddy!

[moose]

damn qube, rockin.

really like the hip part. nice stuff man.
pior! yay! the cuteness lives on!

[qubism]

http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/choclatewip2.JPG


http://www.kurilko.net/qubism/choclatewip3.JPG

is it done? i might need to touch her back and hair...
also gotta do the alpha chan...
im pretty comfortable with the panties now tho.

[notman]

Her cheeks and nose almost seem too shiny. Hard to tell without a closer look, but her face almost looks plastic. I don't know if that's what you were going for though :/

I really like her clothing though. The details in the boots and the chest are cool.

[qubism]

if its all just allmost i leave it /images/graemlins/wink.gif no realy i like that look for her on her cheeks

[notman]

That's cool /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[JBoskma]

Had to give it a try, 1 hour photoshop.
http://www.rainysaturday.com/JBoskma/elfgrl.jpg

[ScoobyDoofus]

Thats really great work JBoskma, but isnt her face a wee bit tiny?

[qubism]

id rather ask if it makes sence to work on that resolution...

[Zeldrik]

Looks like you photosourced britney spears eye onto that texture JBoskma, nothing wrong with that i suppose except its way too small for the type of face.

Digging that face texture Pior looks very you /images/graemlins/smile.gif

And i love the quake 3 type feel of yours qubism, but i agree her cheeks and nose look too shinny.

[JBoskma]

Scoob: heh yeah, it is a bit tiny /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Qube: As long as your having fun in your spare time. I think it makes sense then.
Zeldrik: Good eye, it's all painted though. I've used a photo of britney for reference and colors.

[b1ll]

AHHAHA ya, Ur is funny JBoskma, LOL, it look like the side of the head as been extended like crazy LOL, Oups

b1ll

[poopinmymouth]

So glad to see the thread isn't dead yet. I love the white on yours qubism. Bosky, why does Brittany have Mike Tysons tattoo? lol

[qubism]

poop after u said it it popped in my face. she looks damn like
britany spears or however her name is writte. do we have some
sort of photosourcing going on boskma? i really dont like the
tattoo ... anyone who has one of these has made a big fault

[almighty_gir]

the texturing and ability of you guys goes waaaay above my head :O

[mr.toast]

[ QUOTE ]
i really dont like the
tattoo ... anyone who has one of these has made a big fault

[/ QUOTE ]

well after all she did get married while drunk and anulled it in a couple of hours, then got married agian later that year, she wasnt even going to sign a prenup until her parents begged her to

[JBoskma]

Read my reply to Zeldrik qube... Is there anything wrong with you lately, it's like you're always moaning about everything. sorry

[qubism]

no hard feelings lets make love.
i didnt mean to sound rude and it was really just my lack of
subtile vocabular that made me say words like shit and fuck
(lol). okay well ... im my oppinion the tattos could be a
lil more fine have tinier elements to it that are more
artfull that the standart 0815 tattoo is that u get in any
tattooshop.
i think the tribals arent really creative or original
anymore. so u need to push it alil further designwise if u
want make something outstanding. and i knew a girl that
wanted to get one of these things above her ass. u know what
im talkin about. i dunno how it is over in your countries
but here i know that just the freakiest sluts have one of
these and it doesnt say that she has alot in her head or
that she likes to be individual. or thinks about it....
whatever im takin away from the topic.

shows us flats u whore! :P

[Thermidor]

ive never tryed somthing like this , anyone know how to get te model into maya ? am i missing somthing?

[diZzyWalnut]

/images/graemlins/wink.gif
http://www.miseryproduction.com/ember_run_bones.html

[Red Crane]

thermidor: If you want to try it in Maya ya can always go to Kaydara.com and get the fbs exporting plugin for max and maya and try that. I know ther eis prolly sn easier way but since i already had them installed it was the easiest way for me /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Boskma: Hey looks great to em tho the eye is still a little to small it doesn't bother me. I am really diggin teh skin texture and your lips are fucking great. Hope you get time to finish off the texture GL

Qube: Lovin the bronzed leather look and teh skin tone is def nice but the cheks look like she is a bit to jolly or windburnt no other complaints tho. not that my complaints would realy matter but just thought i'd offer my opinion

[Red Crane]

Thermidor you use Maya right? well can you give me any links to learn normal Mapping with Maya? I'm more comfortable with Maya myself and i'd appreciate it. Thanks

[TechSmith]

I just wanted to say that i'm still going. It's been a year since I tried to texture something and it shows. I'm getting stuck on the wrinkles in the cloth. I just can't get them to look right. I'll keep plugging away though! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://mypage.iu.edu/~daphipps/Images/ember5.jpg

[Illusions]

Its a Dark Elf...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Illusions/progress1.jpg

...how original... lol /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ScoobyDoofus]

Here is a tiny update I guess...
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/mysterymachine/azure_rv1.jpg

[Thermidor]

cheers Red Crane ill give that a try , goto http://www.jeffparrott.com/normalmaptut_02.html for some useful stuff and

http://www.monitorstudios.com/bcloward/tutorials_normal_maps1.html
for some great info

[NuclearTes]

@ScoobyDoofus: You shouldn't think like that. I don't think you suck. If you think you suck, you will only feel worse. Try to look at the bright side of things, like:

"This skin may not be finished yet, but I will complete it."

"While I'm working on this skin I'm practicing my texturing skills. Because of that, I will be able to make my next skin faster and/or better than this one. If I continue to do this, I will become better all the time."

Besides, I really like your skin so far. It's very cute and her face is beautiful. You should be proud of it; you made it, it's your own creation. http://boards.polycount.net/images/icons/poly142.gif

BTW, if you suck, I suck aswell. I don't think I suck, I try to improve my skills. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Zeldrik]

Yeah scooby she is looking very nice.
Only crit i have is to maybe tone down the harshness of her cheeks, the shadow isnt subtle enough.

[ScoobyDoofus]

Hah, lol well thank you for that reply Tes.

I'm really an egomaniac normally, but my self-depricating humor is my way of keeping that ego in check! (just ask anybody who met me in Austin)

I think it looks nice as well. I just get hung up on ideas moreso than painting/rendering well. I'll paint and re-paint and re-paint an area of a texture sheet 4-5 times before I'm happy with the design, even if the painting is good.

[ElysiumGX]

*bump* get your ass back in line!

so any more updates? is this getting imported soon?
hate to see such a cool effort be ignored.
I may find time this weekend to finish my texture after some mod work.

[Hollowmind]

Dunno but I gave my skin to DemonPrincess already.

[KMan]

Damn! I finally came up with an idea, but now have no tools to make it on. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

No fret. I'll be get it going in a couple more weeks.

[pior]

Almost there...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/ember_pior_04.jpg

It somehow looks like a tribute to Ruz... Which is fair since I love his works /images/graemlins/smile.gif I might need to desaturate the colors a little, not sure.

Can't wait for a released pack!

www.pioroberson.com (http://www.pioroberson.com)

[poopinmymouth]

Looking pimp Pior, but where is the nipple shine!!!

Also you need to sign on MSN more often.

[MoP]

face = perfect

[Jeff Parrott]

Yeah, that face is great. Looking forward to seeing it finished.

[b1ll]

OMFG
pior AHAHHA, I dig it
the face ya, YUm, the assssss too YUM
U win!
b1ll

[Toomas]

OOh finnaly pior makes an update, really nice as usual but maybe the hair is little too bright and pulls too much attention away from the oh-so-cute-face?

[qubism]

nice work so far pior
saturation looks like. u might need to get some darkness in a
few areas to make certain things pop out more or get into the
background as said before.

[pior]

Poop, yeah it's doable /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mop Jeff and B1llou, the head was great fun in the making. Rather quick to do too... Heads are fun /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Toom and Qube, I think see what you mean. I guess I need to take a break away from her to really see these issues tho...

But besides that its more or less done

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/ember_pior_05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/ember_pior_flat.jpg

Skinning this little model was a great side project... Any plans for a released pack?

[poopinmymouth]

It looks very nice Pior. Great job. My only complaint, and this might have been a conscious choice of yours, is that there seems to be too many open areas of flat color, and the only shading happens on the extreme areas of direction change. Its pretty sucessful, but I think I prefer the boot, where everything has at least a little shading to show the volume better.

[sundance]

she has only 1 nipple!

[mr.toast]

woah looking at pior's skin, for a small elf girl, she got some nice thunder thighs

[RageUnleashed]

Hehe pior likey the freckled ladies. Some damn nice texturing work here, I wish I could jump in but I lack Max skills (shall work on that in my spare time...)

[old_man_funk]

EDIT: Ok, done as much work as I want to on this one. Here's the final product --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/oldmanfunk/ember-final.jpg

And the texture --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/oldmanfunk/ember-flat.jpg

Cheers,

-- funk

[pior]

Poop, yeah it was a kind of choice, I wanted to go for simplicity and for plain colors. But I feel like she *might* need some extra details like OldManFunks, which are simple yet detailled... Well I'd say that my version is more of a RTS asset then /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sundance, WHATS WRONG WITH THAT ? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Toast, well she's a tough elf girl let's say

Rage, please just jump in! You don't need Max skills for this exercise, just good old 3dexploration and any paintpackage!

Anything new on Demonprincess' side?

[shotgun]

how the hell did i miss this thread?
whats going on?
has the world gone MAD?!

um

cool work people!

[sundance]

me likey old man!

pior, why only one, why not 2?!!!

[ScoobyDoofus]

http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/mysterymachine/azure_rv2.jpg

Ok, finished I guess.
Comment & critique away please, though I probably wont make any more changes. I'll just keep any hints in mind for my next skin.

Thanks!

[shotgun]

shexy bitch!!

i always enjoy seeing your work my man
the design is very good
very effective
i think some areas, like the dark boot "frame", look remarkably more detailed than others

ok does anyone see the amazing similarities?
http://www.vanessaparadis.net

[poopinmymouth]

Awesome job Scoobles. I am with shotgun in that it doesn't quite look as tight as it could be. Alot of areas look a bit blurry. My favorate area is the leg from the knee down. there is some great contrast going on there. Also your blacks seem to be a weak spot. the leather on her side just looks like white lines, and all the belts seem to be a light grey that doesnt respond much to light. Overall I really dig the soft shading and the colors, would just like to see it given that last bit of OOmph.

[diZzyWalnut]

ScoobyDoofus -
nice skin - Swedish colors. /images/graemlins/grin.gif I love really her face - which's very soft - SPLENDID.