So what are you working on?

[skrubbles]

wip...

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9828/headwip002nk4.jpg

[adamlewis]

Thanks Bobo and Neox. I made the hands smaller with a bit more length to the fingers, probably still gonna tweak them a lot more though, I agree they fight with the rest of the design.

Here's an updated full body shot with a super quick polypaint. Lower half is still in rough stages.

http://www.adamvfx.com/beelzebub2.jpg

[Renaud Galand]

Really cool design adam !I like the clean/sharp sculpting you have there /images/graemlins/smile.gif The torso/general proportions reminds me a bit of a model Kolby Jukes made during the first mudbox beta test.

Keep up the good work !

[indian_boy]

wow this project is going slow for me:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w104/indian_boy/Medieval%20Manor%20Level/gateway01_WIP03.jpg

removed all the dirt, cuz i was told to change it drastically... also, changed the brick 'style' or what not? added some wear...
as of now, theres only a bit of dirtying... i just wanted to show the base before i attempt the dirt.. any general tips on the process are welcome!
and obviously crits on the current state too!

its rendered in 3ds max btw... 3 lights

thanks for all the help so far!

[East]

Playing a bit with my high polygon version in ZBrush, doing some polygon painting. I'd love to be able to transfer this texture over to a texture map, but I think I'd have to import a retopologised mesh that is the final model with UV's and project onto this mesh for shrink wrapping.. The polygon painting would probably disappear then.

Still, fun trying to come up with a human facial expression. I don't do this stuff normally /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.davidostman.se/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mac-0051.jpg

[ScoobyDoofus]

East: You can convert your poly colors to a texture within Zbrush and re-export your highpoly w/ auto UV's. Then you can bake your colors and normals/etc in your app of choice. Just apply the output texture from ZB to your High poly prior to baking. I've done that a few times. It requires cleanup in PS, but works just fine.

[gavku]

adamlewis - nice...
snip...
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6286/crabbyxn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BoBo_the_seal]

Nice crustacean!

- BoBo

[Asmuel]

[ QUOTE ]
The torso/general proportions reminds me a bit of a model Kolby Jukes made during the first mudbox beta test.

[/ QUOTE ]

Look a the name, its cool but a bit unoriginal TBH /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Marshal Banana]

Just a sword
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/Marshal_banana/beholdthesword.jpg

[adamlewis]

Thanks Renaud, I love the model you're referring to and referenced it while working on the character, which is the reason for some of the similarities.

Asmuel: I'm disappointed to hear that, but appreciate the criticism. I'll try to keep my designs a bit fresher in the future.

[ThatDon]

Don't listen to Asmuel, he's just butt hurt, Your design is pretty rock'n mate.

[Asmuel]

[ QUOTE ]
Don't listen to Asmuel, he's just butt hurt, Your design is pretty rock'n mate.

[/ QUOTE ]

@ don: Hahaha

@ adamlewis: If you google Beelzebub, you'll find kolby's interpretation is very different to most interpretations, more bat like than fly with distinctive forms/proportions etc. That's why I said it feels unoriginal, the close similarities to a very "outside of the square" design. I should have written more constructive critisism, rather just a blunt negative comment. It's really cool man, very very clean. Its likeness is the only thing that I would criticize it on, which doesn't necessarily need to be remedied, its cool anyway. IF you want it to look less like Kolby's you could change the crotch area up a bit, thats one of the main things that makes it look similar.

Not trying to shit on your work man, just trying to give an honest opinion. Very nicely executed /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Sectaurs]

I thought it was based off of Barlowe's Beelzebub?

[conte]

nice fly, but hands and legs looks out a bit.
dig subtle details.

[pliang]

You got crabs...

The bumps and details on the exoskeleton's really subtle.

[pior]

Hey Adamlewis, cool creature! I like the feel of it, looks like some kind of weird unknown material. There is something odd about the renders tho, I read it as very flat? Like a cardboard cutout. Maybe it's because of the strange castshadows, makes it look squashed somehow. I'd love to see a proper 3/4 perpective view.

[adamlewis]

ThatDon: Thanks!
Asmuel: It's fine man, I understand and appreciate your honest criticism.
conte: Thanks. I agree the hands/legs still look a bit weird, I might overhaul those parts of the design to deal with it.
pior: Thanks. And yeah I've been struggling to get a good screengrab out of Zbrush. Here's one from Mudbox viewport:

http://www.adamvfx.com/beelzebub3.jpg

[madman]

gavku- like the balance of ur "bug" /images/graemlins/wink.gif

sad demon WIP...

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5192/demonwip3ln4.jpg

[Rens]

madman!

thats a killer, sweet work

only suggestion i can give, is maybe bringing the horns closer together.

[kolbyjukes]

@adamlewis: Hey, I did see this a couple days ago, and had to look at it for a bit. I really like what you did with the head, and I dig the insectoid legs and arms, but the hands and feet feel really awkward to me, don't really have the elegant feeling of the rest of the model. I agree the crotch and torso feel very similar to my thing, but whatever.

Your piece has a very nice, almost barlowe feel to it. Have you got Barlowe's Inferno and Brushfire? If not, stop referencing my crappy models and go get those books, way more inspiring.

[Silva_Spoon]

Wow you are a fucking madmad!

[madman]

Thanx guys!
Silva_Spoon - LOL

[indian_boy]

madman.. how many polies in that piece of genius u provided us to wank off to?

oh wait.. am i the only one? c'mon i CANT be!!
its bloody awesome!!!

u jackass, u forgot the [RANDOM STIFFY] warnings... now theres a hole thru my computer table....

lol i kid... amazing stuff man! aMAZE-ing

[madman]

It's about 1,7 mln polygons, next subdivision will be over 7mln... so I have to cut horns and import them as subtool. Thx fot the good word.

[adamlewis]

Thanks Kolby I really appreciate the kind words. I'm a big fan of your work so your opinion means a lot to me. I'm definitely going to go back and fix the hands/feet to try to remove some of that awkwardness that's bringing down the design.

And yeah, it's not a coincidence that it feels similar to Barlowe. My whole inspiration for starting the set was after stumbling on his website and being totally floored by his incredibly creative depictions of Hell. I'm planning on getting one of his books soon but not sure which of the three would be best; any suggestions?

[commander_keen]

Started this a couple days ago. Its basically a Geometry Wars Clone.

http://www.keenleveldesign.com/pimp/kwars/kwars_wip1.jpg

[kolbyjukes]

@adamlewis: Go with Brushfire, that's my fav.

[achmedthesnake]

lobster:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/achmedthesnake/lob_mdbx03.jpg
working on building it up slowly, to avoid my usual generic blobby details..

[Slum]

eye trails ftw. looks ace.

[Keg]

commander keen: nice, but I say move onto something else.

Grid Wars was shut down: http://www.incitti.com/Blitz/ (5th project down)

[Davision3D]

http://www.daxx-web.de/bilder/bullmonster.jpg

[BoBo_the_seal]

Lobster Johnson is looking great! One of my favorite characters.

- BoBo

[pior]

Starting on a UT3 character. It's a concept I've been willing to put it ingame since a while now hence I thought I could get over it now that the new UT is out! I plan to go much more realistic with the face to make it contrast as much as possible with the overdone armor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/pior_copwip_002.jpg

[ironbearxl]

That's a nice concept pior!

[adamlewis]

kolby: Thanks for the recommendation, I ordered it this morning.
pior: Really nice concept; great looking forms and weight to it.

[Marshal Banana]

Practicing polyflow and such
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/Marshal_banana/basemesh1.jpg

[aesir]

pior... good luck rigging that thing. oh the intersections!

[Martin Henriksson]

http://static.pici.se/pictures/swKbxXGEB.jpg

just trying to figure out normal mapping. Ignore the shades /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The tattoos are made by a friend of mine.

[Marshal Banana]

Now I'm stuck. I'm not sure how to go about modelling the hands. Can anyone suggest a model or something I should look at?
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/Marshal_banana/basemesh2.jpg

[Baddcog]

Marshal, what I've found to be easier than extruding the hands from the arms is to trace the shape of the hand with a line tool.

Couple ways to do it, take a pic of your hand, scan your hand... then trace with the line tool and try to put the verts where you want it segmented (at the finger joints...)

Either use that pic as a back drop in 3d program or trace it with pen tool in photoshop and export the ai file, import the ai into 3d...

Then extrude the outline. Then tweak the thickness as needed, attach the hand to the end of arm.

[Asmuel]

I cant wait to see that in 3d Pior!!!!!! U MUUUUST FINISH!!!

[Uly]

Fucking rock, Achmed. Self-inflicted justice.

[madman]

pior- great concept, like the colors! I only can't understand that... "handle" thing behind his head /images/graemlins/wink.gif

up to date... or something...

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8836/demonwipsl4.jpg

[Marshal Banana]

Thanks, Baddcog. I like that method.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/Marshal_banana/basemesh3.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/Marshal_banana/basehand1.jpg

[Sectaurs]

madman - that is beautiful and i wants it.

[commander_keen]

Some more progress. Its got support for duel analog stick GamePads and a full functional menu and ini saving system.

@Keg, I think I can make it different enough that it wont infringe on their IP.

http://www.keenleveldesign.com/pimp/kwars/kwars_wip2.jpg

[_Eclipse_]

Hello everyone, I was only a lurker but now I'm joining the forum because I'm also doing 3d in my spare time /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Here's a model i'm working on for a FPS techdemo i'm making alone, It's a scifi guard\soldier /images/graemlins/smile.gif
I plan to make it also zbrushed and normalmapped
Crits and suggestions are welcome!
I'm a coder not a 3d artist, and I'm a real beginner in modelling so don't be rude /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

http://i5.tinypic.com/8eihuzr.png

[diffa]

...
Dork the Orc WIP
http://www.alphapolygon.com/pics/works/veikko_007.jpg

[almighty_gir]

ugh, why do people model orc's as just big men with green skin and pointy ears? where's the character gone from their race?

at the very basic level, tolkeins orcs were once elvish and had vastly different proportions. at the very extreme you could look at warhammer orcs as a comparrison.

but what you've got there is a cop out.

[b1ll]

i think people can interpret orc however they fucking want

[low odor]

http://www.kempa.com/blog/images/this-is-not-a-pipe.jpg

I agree. Orcs come in all shapes , sizes, and interpretation. If one wants to depict them gorilla muscled and green it fits the archetype...it's a good start

[conte]

yeah, everyone can make orcs as they see, but in many cases people does making big green gorilla. And that's some stupidly generic.

[Sectaurs]

gir - there's no real 'right' way to portray an orc, as it's a fictional creature... but i'll agree that seeing all these Blizzard orcs running around is a bit disappointing. i hate the warhammer orks, though, so at least i don't have to see that.

this mesh looks to be in the early early stages, so hopefully he'll get tons more character in him. his face is still pretty human, basically only his ears make him recognizable as not human

[Nick Carver]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I love checking out what everyone's up to. Here's some grabs of a sculpt I'm working on in Zbrush.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/test4copy.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/test2copy.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/test3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/test5.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/test6.jpg

[BoBo_the_seal]

HAHA that is SOOOOOO nice! I love that old geezer! Welcome to the boards.

- BoBo

[almighty_gir]

reminds me of one of my science teachers bahahaha i love it /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[fogmann]

Haha great sculpt, lovely!
Looking forward to seeing more of your work, and welcome to Polycount /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Renaud Galand]

haha ! awesome concept Nick /images/graemlins/laugh.gif welcome on polycount !

[Psyk0]

Geriatric emo hairstyle ftw! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[adamlewis]

Early wip of another character...

http://www.adamvfx.com/mnyn.jpg

[MoP]

Ahh, 'bout time you started posting around here Nick, I love your artwork! Keep it coming! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Adam Lewis: Cool stuff, I love the really defined planes and edges you keep pulling out.

[pliang]

That's a nice devilish smile you got on that face...

[ImSlightlyBored]

detail break barrier for a mix up between art nouveau and tech
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5329/renderzf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hi poly of course
Cables gonna be just image planes, old school ftw. Things meant to be tileable but isnt at the moment.

Looking at the concept I think the piano hinges of the front panels need to be more pronounced to break up that flat plane and the front panels need more depth or at least need more support to stand them up. Oh and of course more mandatory nuts and bolts but thats without saying. No need to model them!

excuse the typing my bloody space key is borked

addendum:I also dont like those sharp edged sticks, will round them off with a detail or something.Any ideas??

[Skeptical Nate]

That old guys awesome Nick

Heres a stylized violin I'm working on for fun.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/SkepticalNate/ViolinWIP1.jpg

[Nick Carver]

Cheers for the kind words, all! I've made a turnaround movie of the bust in Zbrush but I don't have a website currently. Can anyone recommend somewhere I could host the file for free?

[aesir]

youtube?

[Asmuel]

Nice Nick, makes me think of the Triplets of Belleville for some reason.

[Nick Carver]

I've put the video up on google video, but all those streaming vid thingies seem to compress movies horribly. If anyone's got a better alternative, then let me know.

Cheers, Nick.

EDIT: See post below.

[adamlewis]

Nick, check out Stage6 (http://www.stage6.com). As far as I know they have virtually no restrictions on the size or quality of the video being uploaded. The only downside is you need to use the Divx or Xvid codec with your movies.

[diffa]

update on my orc...

http://www.alphapolygon.com/pics/works/orc_medium.jpg

[killingpeople]

very rad anatomy play adamlewis. i'm loving beelzebub2.jpg, hell, all your beelzebub sculpts make me drippy.
haha nice, Nick Carver, the second image made laugh.

[madman]

Nick- haha awesome form /images/graemlins/smile.gif

-------------------------------

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/725/demonwip4uc4.jpg

[killingpeople]

diffa: your guy's back muscles look like a vagina.

[diffa]

killingpeople : cool! Well that's just makes him unique.
Orc with a vagina on his back. You didn't see that coming.

[Nick Carver]

Thanks again for the kind words, folks!

Made a few tweaks and tried to make the expression into more of a wink:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/oishiiniku/stillgotit.jpg

I got some free webspace to host the turnaround. Apologies if it goes bye-bye:

http://www.freewebs.com/oishiinku/turnaround.mov

Thanks, Nick.

[jibowski]

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY !!!

http://jibifaak.free.fr/frms/machine_02.jpg

[dupikus]

Madman - emejzing! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Nick - haha, looks great!

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4642/brianmh5.jpg

[thnom]

Dupikus that looks rather nice BUT that shirt needs to be flipped around. Male shirts buttons are usually on the right as are symbols/motifs/logos etc on the left.

[Martin Henriksson]

http://static.pici.se/pictures/iwbybTOLp.jpg

Working on a full landsknecht kind of character, im actually gonna try to finish this one for once, normalmapped and all. CnC welcome as always, its all very much WIP atm.

[ironbearxl]

nice prop jibowski!

[Davision3D]

New Char for UT3:
http://www.daxx-web.de/bilder/mouseut.jpg
Its a model that i made some time ago, i have made a 2nd skin that i will import later. He will also get some shoulderpads and helmets.
Hopefully EPIC will release a Patch soon that allows custom Factions!

[Japhir]

cool davision3d!

i made a head:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4843/headwipvx1.jpg

[adamlewis]

Davision that looks wicked in-game.


Spent more time on this guy. Debating whether or not to shorten his legs, but I like him kind of freakishly tall. Still need to refine certain areas like his hands.

http://www.adamvfx.com/moloch.jpg

[8FtSpider]

Adam Lewis, I love this stuff, man. Keep hammering away at these devils. I don't think you need to shorten the legs, btw.

[commander_keen]

Davision3D: Cool, does it use standard ut3 animations? It looks kinda stiff in the screenshots.

[SHEPEIRO]

man it seams like ages since ive had the time to post on these pages,
loads of cool work esp the character stuff....adam i think the thing needs sommit weird to set it off like a walkman or an Ipod

[Armanguy]

hey guys just throwing something in here :P working on my own mod right now 2 man mod actually with a coder friend ofmine im in charge of the models,levels and mostly everything of the art side and hes in charge of coding one of the first things ive completed is the healthpack for the main character he is pre-teens so he cant really use med kits so the way he gets his health back is from these lunchboxes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/armanguy/TIHEALTHPACK.jpg

[ironbearxl]

Neat pickup Armanguy, it could use some surface dents though since it looks like it's taken a beating.

[Armanguy]

thanks man never thought of doing that ill be sure to add that in /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MightyPea]

AdamLewis: I really like your stuff, but have you ever considered adding some 'clarity' of shapes? That sounds vague, I realise, but for instance: the legs and feet are absolutely perfect in that regard. They mix large plain surfaces with smaller surface variations, whereas the torso has too much visual noise in the belly-area. The chest really works for me, but the belly suddenly demands all attention, without adding much to the interest of the character, I feel. This may ofcourse change drastically once you get to the texture maps (using colour and specular to draw attention elsewhere) when everything won't look quiet this crisp, but have you tried it with a less busy belly?

[Davision3D]

@ commander_keen
It use the Krall Skeleton and animations, the Krall move this kinda funny. I think it fits good to the mouse. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

@ adamlewis
Cool style!
How do you make it this extreme sharp and clean, just using the pinch and smooth tool a lot?

[nkoste]

Awesome Davision! I haven't put anything in a game since HL. I like the texture of the skin.

[Japhir]

update:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4421/headsdkwiptw5.jpg
I want to make the hair as in my simple concept sketch (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5306/head040108px2.jpg) , but i have no idea how to do that, so any ideas about that?

[Johny]

hey man is that a basemesh or lowpoly ? i like the shapes heheh /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Baddcog]

adamlewis,

yeah, that's sweet, alot better than before I think.

[Japhir]

johny: yeah it probably is /images/graemlins/tongue.gif first time trying to sculpt something for real. only problem is that i lost my pentablet's pen and now i can only sculpt using the mouse... damn. :s
thanks!

[Tennis]

http://www.kennethfejer.com/test/rockchick.png
rock chick
533 tris

[Martin Henriksson]

http://static.pici.se/pictures/XTgzfHgAW.jpg

small update, think im gonna scrap the helmet and make him a fancy landsknecht hat instead.

[adamlewis]

8FTSpider: Thank you!
MightyPea: I see your point. I got a bit carried away with the torso but looking at it now I agree it seems out place with the rest of the design. Thanks.
Davision3D: The main things I do to get that effect are using lazy mouse and playing with the settings to get the right stroke, and also using the 'brush mod' slider with the regular push brush to do a simultaneous push/pinch on the stroke.
Baddcog: Thanks.


And now another WIP. Ba'al. I'm going to avoid starting any new characters and now just concentrate on going back and forth refining these three designs. My next characters for the set will be a lot more abstract in design.

http://www.adamvfx.com/baal.jpg

[Martin Henriksson]

http://static.pici.se/pictures/NNQKKlgZW.jpg

Not sure what needs to be done with the hat, atm i feel it looks abit wierd. Some suggestions are appreciated! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Johny]

adamlewis : love that style man, keep us updated please.

[madman]

adamlevis- AWESOME shapes! but prpably I have said that before...

Fast color concept.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5900/demonwip6ai1.jpg
Cheer!

[pior]

Madman, the back handle is for him to be dropped by a plane or whatever :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/pior_copwip_003.jpg

Originally wanted to push and render the concept much further but I feel like I have all the necessary info with a toonesque, plaster-like volume render. Will see...

[ThatDon]

That's really hawt pior, I dig the handle /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[gavku]

Yeah Pior thats looking ace.

[Armanguy]

reminds me of tf2 for some reason nice job pior what are you using?

[DanConroy]

Trying to get past the stage of "can't texture to save my life" so working on smaller models like so :

http://uploads.dodart.net/uploads/Renders-2.jpg

[Japhir]

really cool stuff in here!
so i found my pen and got sculpting. really hard to retain the original shape! well anyways here it is:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2507/headsdkwipzo7.jpg

[ThatDon]

Highpoly for the mini pro wrestler comp at GA
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8656/wip4tc1.jpg

[BoBo_the_seal]

DannyLad: that is looking really good. The road is too pristine and clean at the moment. Give it a slight incline towards the edge and a drainage channel. Also, gradient darker colors from the edge out to show wear and tear.

Pior: That will kick so much ass!

ThatDon: That does kick so much ass! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

- BoBo

[sama.van]

Working on my next character.
Viewport screen, diffuse self illu 100%.
http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Armor_A01.jpg

[DanConroy]

[ QUOTE ]
DannyLad: that is looking really good. The road is too pristine and clean at the moment. Give it a slight incline towards the edge and a drainage channel. Also, gradient darker colors from the edge out to show wear and tear.

Pior: That will kick so much ass!

ThatDon: That does kick so much ass! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

- BoBo

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks very much for that feedback mate, i'll have a play around with your ideas and see if I can do it.

[marro]

ThatDon, your wrestler is awesome!

[pior]

Wouah Sama that looks so much better than anything I've seen from you! Great start!
You might want a bit more contrast on the skintone - and by that I don't mean adjusting the whole thing using brightness/contrast in Photoshop, but instead adding some very localized spots of brighter color ex where the meet, on the forhead aso. (ouéé donc peut etre un peu plus de contraste mais pas 'brightness/contrast' dans PS, plutot des points de contraste locaux genre sur le front, entre les seins au niveau du sternum etc).

Absolutely love that fat wrestler. So nice haha!

Haha thanks Bobo. I obviously see that cop as a goofy, not serious character - it's quite fun to make him look huge but stupid at the same time. More concepts below and a pimped up lit version : (plan to use UT3 swappable bodyparts system for alternate helmets and shoulderpads)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/pior_copwip_004c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/pior_copwip_006.jpg

Wooo!

[RazorBladder]

He's on full alert with that red alarm on his face.
You're doing big & goofy proud :P

[ThatDon]

Pior, stop being so bloody awesome.

[Peris]

ha that last helmet design is awesome /images/graemlins/smile.gif. Guy has some huge crotch protection there tho /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SHEPEIRO]

Prior- id love too see a hanglider with hundreds of those slung underneath.

sommit ive been working on for a while, but mainly on design and tech stuff so far. its a little XNA project that ive enlisted some help with, maybe when work calms down we'll be able to spend some time on it.
but this weekend i decided to jump in and start modelling the main star

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c346/Shepeiro/firefighter.jpg

also shoved it in one of my test scenes (not in engine) just tests to see whether what i want is going to be possible

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c346/Shepeiro/firefighterscene.jpg

[tacit math]

chasing ThatDon's wrestler :

http://orderindebris.exorsus.net/images/wresl_spins.gif

[ThatDon]

Chasing aye? looks like you put your Nikes on and left me in the dust.

[Asmuel]

Looks fucking awesome Tactic!

Skin actually looks great, is it just a ZB3 mat?

@ Pior - Thats going to be the coolest thing to hit UE3!

[IronHawk]

HOT Damn Pior! So much style it hurts.

[sama.van]

Pior : punaise ça déchire du slip >___<
(french trip)
And yes thanks for tips Pior!
Actually I'm trying some specular attempt on the nude body, this is on progress for now...
http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Es...an_Nude_A00.jpg (http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Nude_A00.jpg)

So, I continu on my diffuse map. (Hell I forgot to try normal map again woops /images/graemlins/laugh.gif)

http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Armor_A02.jpg

[MattLichy]

sama.van : Damn man that is looking really nice so far /images/graemlins/smile.gif.


Here is a character I started for my demo reel. I still have quite a bit of work to do, but I am alost done with my low poly for the head.


http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/40886/2005150195303339358_rs.jpg

[BoBo_the_seal]

Pior and tacit : SPLOOOGGGEEE!!!!!

[Matys]

hi
working on:
http://images28.fotosik.pl/137/a1bbaf4dbe31b23d.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

and
http://images32.fotosik.pl/99/9108c504ac6ba3ad.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)
not sure about them at all :/ any idias how to improve ?

[BoBo_the_seal]

very nice Matys!

- BoBo

[monkeyboy_garth]

Tacit, that's awesome!

[Bryan Cavett]

Matys those models look awesome but the arms are seriously lacking on both models. If you fix the anatomy issues they will improve greatly.

Awesome stuff in this thread lately.

[MAUL0r]

Tacit, at first glance it looks like chibi-juggernaut.... bitch! Great modeling!

[JordanW]

new comp = new art
http://www.mutantspoon.com/temp/2.jpg

[pior]

Matys that nice! I reckon you used alot of Z3 extract features for the straps and such? I need to try that more. That's THE one thing I love about Z3 /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sama, I usually don't really like doing paintovers but I wanted to bring the point accross here. Basically what I meant is quite the opposite of what you have with your current specular pass. I was talking about localized contrast allowing the eye to jump from spot to spot. Kindof like this :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pior_ubb/samapaint.gif

I didn't work them as mush as Kenneth Scott did on the Hunter texture and I kept the shiny bits more like paint strokes but you get the idea. Also the reason for the super shiny dot on the shoulder -which is waaay to pronounced here but then again I just want to bring the point across- is for this spot to take over the other shiny spots. In terms of relative contrast the shiny bits on the face and b.o.o.b.s look *less* shiny than the shoulder, but the painted information is still there. I believe Kenneth Scott did this using the b.o.o.b.s and ass on his texture because of them being the bigger shapes available. (their highlight is not only bigger, its also brighter) Also on your m.o.d.e.l you can notice how the arm which was just a plain color before becomes a volume just with the addition of one white spot - a very useful thing to use when doing metals aso.

BUT! this might be way to much for the style you are looking for (japan-like, 'dry' AO look). But still the concept art has this shiny look too! Up to you :P

[Conor]

Making quick sprites for a 2d game...

http://harpooned.org/images/humpback_original.gif http://harpooned.org/images/humpback_3d.gif http://harpooned.org/images/humpback.gif

[Skeptical Nate]

hey thats pretty neat conor

[Neo_God]

Just a little messing around by applying some school figure sculpting knowledge to Z-Brush, going about doing an asymmetrical sculpt in a more dynamic pose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/kfs.jpg

[katana]

...so that's how you make sprites...nice...

Pior, If you are going to expose the arm, then I see little point of covering up the face...Personally I think that covering the face , which has so much character, is not that great of a direction...the visor looks good, the face paint is overkill with any kind of face covering...just my .02...The piece is fantastic though and I added it to my reference folder.

[hawken]

nice idea for the sprite there connor.

ok it's not for any sort of game but I've been working on 6 scenes over the past few months, heres one of them - final will be animated like the others. Maybe I'll post the animations of this one here.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2287/2174340731_de18f9e596_o.jpg

[indian_boy]

those wrestlers are AWESOME

and pior... fabulous piece [as i think every1's come to expect? i need to learn how to paint like that lol... workin at it hehe... love all the head ideas [though the huge red 'light' seems... weird?]

Matys WOAHNESS...... love those pieces.. just err... reduce the wrist thickness on the first guy? it seems.. too fat, personally

[Japhir]

great stuff guys!
pior: i'd definately go with the second head design!

update on my sculpt:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6594/headsdkwipbf0.jpg

i still need to figure out a way to make the hair like in my concept sketch (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5306/head040108px2.jpg)

[sir-knight]

[ QUOTE ]
http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Armor_A02.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

that chest armor is pretty damn sexy looking... I need to get back to my designing roots...

[sama.van]

Pior : Ok I'll do it after armor!

So playing with specular again /images/graemlins/laugh.gif, but I hope close armor diffuse this night, all bottom left... /images/graemlins/mad.gif

http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Armor_A03.gif

[Davision3D]

mad scientist:
http://www.daxx-web.de/bilder/scientist.jpg

@ sama.van
great looking texture!

[Ruz]

ha ha Davision3D. thats cool mate

[leilei]

Frankensteined a 2 year old body/arms model to test out proportions and color (and to quickly kick ass on nexuiz online as while I wait for the linux UT3 client to come out /images/graemlins/smile.gif )
http://openarena.ws/crap/darklei2.jpg

also a silly messy looking chaingun replacement - trying 90's VGA 'professional' shareware game style.
http://openarena.ws/fsfps/davecgun2.png

[Tully]

I've been picking away at a maquette in my apres work time. Just proving to myself that I can make a decent one!

http://www.ldaustinart.com/laurel/demon_sculpt_01.jpg
(thanks to MoP for the lovely photos he took of it!)

It's made from Super Sculpey (which is a bitch to find in the UK) and a combination of two sorts of epoxy putty. And super glue. He's missing one side of his teeth, but the ones in there now are just placeholders. I bought some translucent white sculpey so that I can bake them seperately and glue them in after I've finished, baked and painted him (so they look extra toothy).

You'll see a penny I left next to him for scale. There are lots of ugly bits still left, but I'm plugging away to smooth all those out.

And damn if it's not the most fun thing I've made in a while! So much more satisfying than just a drawing. Takes a million times as long, but at the end you have a TOY /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

When he's done I'm taking him to work and he'll live on my desk in perpetuity. Then I'm starting another one. I think I've found a new hobby. (I'm saying this now.. I really do hope I keep up with it.)

[Soccerman18]

Wow, that is pretty awsome Tully. Got any progress shots?

[IronHawk]

start of a fan art piece. The auto turret from SC2. Here is the concept (http://www.starcraft2.com/images/artwork/ss67-hires.jpg) . Here is the current wip shot of me getting started.



http://home.comcast.net/~halljesse7/image_folder/turretStart.jpg

[leilei]

equally corny devastator replacement
http://openarena.ws/fsfps/daveastatin.gif

[ThatDon]

Bah deadlines suck. Might tidy him up more later.



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4578/finalsheethd2.jpg

[Sa74n]

great work, laurel! loving it /images/graemlins/smile.gif you gonna paint it too when you're done sculpting?

thatdon:
/images/graemlins/laugh.gif nacho libre rocks. hope you're going to give him a nice winning pose too

[pliang]

Nice...now apply sub surface scatter on the pores.

[steady]

Great Job ThatDon!
i think i see a kittens face in the center of his chest hair, anyone else see it? i guess mirroring stuff can have funny results sometimes, lulz

[conte]

that don that rox
/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[madman]

Tully: Ahhh, great one. I have to back to traditional sculpt- maybe after You finish that You try to make some artistic photos? Do You plan to paint it?

[IronHawk]

nice wrestler ThatDon. I see the kitten too!

[TheMadArtist]

Those wrestlers are awesome. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Super]

That Nacho Libre rocks. Hard.

Hands suck.
http://www.splitpoly.com/images/work/soldier/002.jpg

[vahl]

Tully : Luv!!

ThatDon : awesomeness dude, that really turned out awesome /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheMadArtist]

A bit of free time today at work http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5684/ufoaiglowhf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Rens]

tully!

thats is freakn brilliant,
i still need to give that supersculpty a try.

keep us updated!

[ThatDon]

It's MACHO LIBRE, I thought I was being cheeky /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ohh gezz, everybody loves kittens though....right..

I originally layed it out for unique chest hair but I was getting nasty seams with the maya cgfx shader, I will have to further look into why that was happening.

[Darksun]

Tully, that's awesome! I started making an action figure out of Supersculpey about a year ago & never finished.. Still get the urge to go back to it.
My family got me Zbrush as a Birthday/Christmas present! How awesome are they!?! I finally feel like I'm part of the group now, lol!
I imported an old model as a base mesh and began my first sculpt!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/darksungames/Garbage/Z_janq5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/darksungames/Garbage/Z_janq4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/darksungames/Garbage/Z_janq6.jpg

[caseofchill]

Nice first sculpt Darksun, good luck with the rest of him.

[ultra]

Very cool Tully!

[Ruz]

leilei - like the devastator. duke nukem was the dogs bollox.
perhaps a few more dirt overlays on it, but too clean/new looking

[Baddcog]

leilei,
Love the thumb buttons, that's probably the most original thing i've ever seen /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[hawken]

no idea how to get the chrome to reflect light onto the fridge surface, still, it's ready for animation. blah blah blah

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2355/2178888283_6963b417e9_o.png

[Ferg]

that would require raytracing, friend hawken

[Skeptical Nate]

summore progress on this. So far just plain colors with vertex lighting.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/SkepticalNate/ViolinWIP2.jpg

[MasteroftheFork]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/MasteroftheFork/DreamEater_wip07.jpg

[leilei]

[ QUOTE ]
leilei,
Love the thumb buttons, that's probably the most original thing i've ever seen /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I wanted to do a more 'hands-on' approach.
The simple, over-antialiased CGI barrel was intentional because in 1994 it'd be regarded as NEXT GENERATION REALISTIC 3D GRAPHICS. So for that fact i've taken the 90s habits route for the art in this one /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[adamlewis]

ThatDon: Great character. Love the proportions.
Tully: Cool stuff. The body looks great but the head needs more love.
Darksun: Nice start, though be careful and resist the urge to go into the higher levels too early. You can push the lower forms a lot further.


Took a break from my main stuff to do a simple head study.

http://www.adamvfx.com/head1.jpg

[tremulant]

guess who...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/daveroo/Progress2.jpg

[Darksun]

[ QUOTE ]
Darksun: Nice start, though be careful and resist the urge to go into the higher levels too early. You can push the lower forms a lot further.


Took a break from my main stuff to do a simple head study.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I see what you mean.... I imported a previous low poly model I did as a base mesh. I'm beginning to see how building the base mesh in a certain way makes a big impact..
currently I think I need to re-topologize it because there are some parts I can't work with very well, never mind fix..

after I do that I wanna go in and hit the lower levels..

btw, your "simple head study" made me explode../images/graemlins/ooo.gif how often do you use masks when modeling? (if at all)

[adamlewis]

Darksun: Thanks. I find that the best way to construct a base mesh it to only create topology when it's absolutely necessary, such as a hand where there are multiple lengthy extrusions that would be impractical and inefficient to extract for a more simple form such as a cube. It's a lot faster, creative, and as a result more fun to model this way, and thanks to new retopology tools like Topogun also very practical. To give you an example, here's the base mesh I used to sculpt the head I posted above:

http://www.adamvfx.com/base.jpg

And also, regarding your question about masks. I don't really use them that much aside from when I want to move around a complex shape without distorting it (like say, if I wanted to adjust the position of a mouth on a face, I can mask off the mouth and then use the move tool to adjust the entire form without distorting it).

[Keg]

Hawken: Look for caustics since xsi, maya and max (listed in order of personal preference :P) all use mental ray.

[MAUL0r]

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x211/MAUL0r/goblin_wip3.jpg
the painting process has begun...

[hawken]

aye I'm being used by cinema 4d.

Figured out where all the buttons are in the end, after some serious hit and miss rendering, here's the final materials:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2180428724_0210cceb17_o.png

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2283/2179639475_c4667f25a0_o.jpg

[BoBo_the_seal]

adamlewis: beautiful work!

[tremulant]

cool stuff hawken

[Sectaurs]

finished up my GA.org contest entry.
you'd all better vote for me. i don't want to win on actual merit!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Sectaurs/Pimpage/Beauty01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Sectaurs/Pimpage/wip06.jpg

[Xenobond]

Hahahaha!!! Great title, Sec. I'd play that game.

[tokidokizenzen]

Awesome Ian!

[Davision3D]

More work on this big one:
http://www.daxx-web.de/bilder/bullmonster2.jpg
I need to make something better for the neck.

[animeboyz]

MAUL0r : I really like the details on the staff

http://www.jakeart.com/FinalScreen.jpg
1500 tris; 512 x 512 maps

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

[ QUOTE ]
hey guys just throwing something in here :P working on my own mod right now 2 man mod actually with a coder friend ofmine im in charge of the models,levels and mostly everything of the art side and hes in charge of coding one of the first things ive completed is the healthpack for the main character he is pre-teens so he cant really use med kits so the way he gets his health back is from these lunchboxes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/armanguy/TIHEALTHPACK.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Also I'd flip all the writting because when it sits up straight like a briefcase all lunchboxes are that way so they are right side up?

[Armanguy]

actually i have one of these at my house and the font faces you like in my model /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sama.van]

Pior : So I did some modification on face /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Some cloth, feet, and leg skin left... I want to die <_<

http://sama.van.free.fr/version4.0/3D/Esenthel/HumanRogueFemale/WIP/WIP_sama.van_Esenthel_Rogue_Human_Armor_A03.jpg

[MAUL0r]

[ QUOTE ]
hey guys just throwing something in here :P working on my own mod right now 2 man mod actually with a coder friend ofmine im in charge of the models,levels and mostly everything of the art side and hes in charge of coding one of the first things ive completed is the healthpack for the main character he is pre-teens so he cant really use med kits so the way he gets his health back is from these lunchboxes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/armanguy/TIHEALTHPACK.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd love to see a portal on the front of it that looks like the other side is inside the lunchbox...

[Kovac]

I finally had the chance yesterday to sit down and play with sculpting for the first time. I'm really enjoying the hell outta it so far. Any crits would be great, as this sucker still has a lonng way to go. Spent about 4 hours on it now which feels like a good speed to get comfortable with zbrush and take my time doing so.

lol away at the absolute shit presentation.. I haven't figured out how any of the rendering stuff works yet /images/graemlins/frown.gif

obvious basebust props to arsh

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/kovac1274/badpresentation.jpg

[bounchfx]

dude sama.van that chick is freaking awesome as hell. <3 it

the texturing is sweet

[IronHawk]

http://home.comcast.net/~halljesse7/image_folder/turretStart.jpg


more progress on the turret. Have some scale issues to work out still but having a good time with this.

[Neo_God]

Davision, looks cool, but boo on using the texture on the hand that is just that single brush in ZB.

Animeboyz...that is looking mighty harsh. Tone that normal map down a bit, it's popping out way too much, it almost hurts the eyes. Maybe render it with some anti-aliasing aswell.

Kovac, it's a nice start but the collar bone looks wonky, for some strange reason you have it forming into the deltoid, when it really should be faded off in to the skin before the deltoid starts.

[Ferg]

lovin it sama, and that character is ace sectaurs

doing some much-needed zbrush anatomy studies with a coworker...

http://www.olypen.com/advent/Smiley/temp/skullstudy.jpg

[Japhir]

sama /images/graemlins/ooo.gif that is very cool! loving the texture work!

[Kovac]

Thanks Neo,
I was going off of a few reference images in addition and was confused by that part.

http://www.kopykake.com/images/bodybuilder.jpg

I'll assume I was seeing it that way because his hands are up on his hips??

I've also made a lot of tweaks to the shape of the cranium, deemphasized the that thick neck muscle (the front sterno one) and scaled up the ears based on some critiques a friend had.

[conte]

oooogh, very hard work is done.
i called him- "3dsmax guy of primitives"
http://hosting03.imagecross.com/myspace-image-upload-2/8273primitiveguylolz.JPG

[DH_]

http://www.horribledeath.com/images/barflez_wip04_th.jpg (http://www.horribledeath.com/images/wip/barflez_wip04.jpg)

More on this old model. Probably won't finish it before Dominance War III, but should get fairly far on it I hope.

*edit* This is based on my WoW character as it was a year or so ago - http://www.horribledeath.com/images/wip/Barflez_wip_ref.jpg

I'm slightly redesigning certain elements on it, but overall that's the design I'm using (It's been my favorite warrior raid armor put in the game).

[conte]

looks very cool, Jason.
but those axes can hurt herself, in the battle.
dangerous lady for sure.

[conte]

and add some really sharp edjes to those skulls, please.

[Davision3D]

@ DH_
Put the axes on her lower arm instead, then she could also use them. Or put them on her boobs. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

@ IronHawk
Looking good, you could make the whole Turret with simple primitives first and then its much easy to figure out the scales.
... with primitives... just like conte did /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

@ Neo_God
To make things clear, i used a modified giraffe pattern texture as a stencil for that. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Im trying to make something that makes his skin look hard.

[Sa74n]

still working on this guy.. slowly progressing:

http://www.sa74n-design.de/temp/yue_wip3.jpg

[Prs-Phil]

lol geil

[Talon]

Loooong time reader and first time poster. I've always been a little intimidated by the abundance of skillz around here :P

It's based off the concept that Spitty posted in this thread a couple of months back.

Still some heavy bleeding at the seams due to the mip-mapping of such a large texture, and the eyes will be added later - they're handled by a shader :P

http://www.hull-breach.com/Talon/temp/TF2FreemanInGame.jpg

[b1ll]

AHAHAH

[Ferg]

hah, awesome talon! Someone model that guy a well-proportioned crowbar!

[IronHawk]

Nice one Talon! Good to see you over on PC.

[Electro]

hahah Talon

[Ape.of.Gods]

Neat Talon, but I think your proportions are way off. The original concept capture the lanky feel of Gordon Freeman where as you're guy looks like he is trying to match the Heavy.

TF2 Freeman Liquify (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=liquifybl6.jpg)

[MoP]

Hehe nice one Talon, looks cool!

Although, why 13,000 triangles? I don't really see a need for it ... and I thought the TF2 guys were much lower poly than that?

[BoBo_the_seal]

haha very nice!

- BoBo

[Emil Mujanovic]

Nice one, Talon.

-caseyjones

[ThatDon]

Talon: Those proportions just feel 'wrong' and I think you're going a bit overkill on the specs...

[Slainean]

Awesome intro post dude /images/graemlins/cool.gif

He deserves his own Meet the Free Man video, haha

[Darksun]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/darksungames/Garbage/Z_janq10.jpg
I'm still getting the hang of zbrush and my mesh is ugly (not to mention beginning to get in the way) this is more of an experiment.
Crits are welcome.

[spitty]

a meet the free man movie would be kind of funny with a mute character. i guess gordon could hold up signs like wile e coyote.

its cool to see someone working on this character, i was too lazy to do it myself. its looking really good, but i tend to agree with ape.of.god's paintover.

[NeoShroomish]

/e nvm problem solved

[MAUL0r]

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x211/MAUL0r/Goblin_Final.jpg
done working on this, but thought I'd post it here in addition to the WIP thread.

[Talon]

Cheers guys /images/graemlins/smile.gif

MoP: The TF2 characters are about 13-15k tris each and the ones I first looked at had 2048x1024 textures, but on further study (ofc, after I had modeled mine to that polycount) I noticed that they've got stuff like modeled teeth and other small but detailed bits. Meaning my model is, as you said, needlessly high poly compared to the TF2 ones. I'm kinda split at the moment between going back and redistributing the polys or just rigging him and moving on to my next project.

Ape.of.Gods: Thanks for the paintover(ish)! His proportions are as close to the concept as I could make it, but I think you're right - he does look better after being made more lanky. I'll play around with making him thinner.

[ImSlightlyBored]

Spent way too long on this... but luckily its taught me a few lessons. This is the xnormal output, looks bit different in UE3. Spec/Diffuse/Normals/Emissive
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9273/xnmaloutputpf4.jpg

Need a bit of help
See the top left corner? Thats how I want it. I want the brown medicine jar full of glowing liquid. I've got it modelled (smaller cylinder inside larger) and mapped but I cannot get opacity.

xNormal was no help and I thought I'd got it in UE3, but the bloody thing didnt seem to take DXT5 (my dds file I mean) so I got a bit stuck. Used .tga 32 bit but no avail either.

further edit: still getting some bloody shading errors on the flat plane, fix it later. and the remarkably flat cog

wondering if it could do with some nuts and bolts?

[Davision3D]

Did some more work on my Mouse UT3 Character:
http://www.daxx-web.de/bilder/mouseut3.jpg
A Beta can be downloaded here:
Download (http://files.filefront.com/Mouse+Beta+08zip/;9417558;/fileinfo.html)

[DH_]

[ QUOTE ]
Spent way too long on this... but luckily its taught me a few lessons. This is the xnormal output, looks bit different in UE3. Spec/Diffuse/Normals/Emissive

Need a bit of help
See the top left corner? Thats how I want it. I want the brown medicine jar full of glowing liquid. I've got it modelled (smaller cylinder inside larger) and mapped but I cannot get opacity.

xNormal was no help and I thought I'd got it in UE3, but the bloody thing didnt seem to take DXT5 (my dds file I mean) so I got a bit stuck. Used .tga 32 bit but no avail either.

further edit: still getting some bloody shading errors on the flat plane, fix it later. and the remarkably flat cog

wondering if it could do with some nuts and bolts?

[/ QUOTE ]

This is one of the limitations of UE3 depending on how you are drawing that object, in my experience it doesn't handle partial opacity on things that are dynamically lit.

You could get opacity on it if you gave it it's own material ID and shader, but that part of the mesh would always be fullbright.

One of the epic guys that post here might know more.

[Slum]

Yep.. No lit-transparencies in UE3. Anything you want to be lit has to be alpha-test 1 bit alpha. Sucks, eh?

[ImSlightlyBored]

seems like a bit of a step backwards in comparison to everything else they've got in there

[Neox]

http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/airborn/boy_06.jpg

seeing the end of the tunnel not much left to bake, hopefully i can start texturing soon.

[Mtg_kirin]

thats really cool. Personal project?

[Neox]

jep it's a redesign of a characiter i did quite a while ago on a project others and me are working on when we have time to do it /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ QUOTE ]
Yep.. No lit-transparencies in UE3. Anything you want to be lit has to be alpha-test 1 bit alpha. Sucks, eh?

[/ QUOTE ]
But having a transparent shader that takes the transparency from the shader settings and not from any alpha would work?

[Rens]

heres something i "was" working on

http://www.rensedeboer.com/sculptures/clay-sculpt-03.jpg

also

http://www.rensedeboer.com/sculptures/clay-sculpt-02.jpg

and i took a better pic of sculpt i did some time ago
quick lyquify to see what it should have bin, always good too notice where you went wrong, guess i totaly messedup the shoulder area at that time.

http://www.rensedeboer.com/sculptures/clay-sculpt-01.jpg

[vahl]

http://wip.global-illusions.com/WarGeneral/PilotFront2.jpg
unfinished, wip pose, blah blah blah

[Neox]

vahl: she's looking nice!

ok i brought him into the U3, but somehow it fucks up the normals, so is this just a thing of a wrong chosen shader or is it a UT3 problem like those fucked up normals on mirrored seams?

http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/airborn/boy_ut.jpg
http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/airborn/boy_ut_normals.jpg

ok played around with the UT Editor and the problem appears ev erytime I add a normalmap, no matter if that normalmap is just 128,128,255 or my right normalmap, the meshnormals get screwed up. When i'm not attaching a normal to the shader, the shading is fine.

Oh forgot to mention, those are of yourse the uv seams. played around in max with different shaders and it only happens when the greenchannel is flipped in some shaders.
but this can't be because the seams also appear with clear normalmaps :/

[Skeptical Nate]

Slow moving on this one, should have it finished soon.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/SkepticalNate/ViolinWIP3.jpg

[Johny]

sekkneox, i think that that is a bitangents issue ,i dont know how unreal handles it, but isnt there an inbuilt normal map generator in ued3 ? i might be tottally wrong ! awesome work man , your stuff always inspires me /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[conte]

wtf! beware of toilet's rage!
http://hosting03.imagecross.com/myspace-image-upload-3/53461.jpg

[NeoShroomish]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/760/rendorec8.png

I made myself a medal.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5008/40702093uo4.jpg

SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY

[Neox]

thank you johny /images/graemlins/smile.gif

and yes i thought of that too, but i loaded a plain 128,128,255 and a 127,127,255 Normalmap onto the model and the seams stay.
So i took a UT3 Model and applied the same shader.

http://polyphobia.de/nonpublic/airborn/normalseam.jpg

So can someone aprove this? Is this really an issue? and do thay really just fake around to get rid of it?

[rollin]

haha.. this time someone else has to find out all the buggy tricky things.. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

sorry, i can´t help but there are some ued3 users here.. this something i´m interestet in too

like the kid.. even if i think its a bit too cute and nice

[Rens]

tonights wip,

http://www.rensedeboer.com/sculptures/clay-sculpt-04.jpg

[Johny]

yeah sekneox , i know what you mean, but even if you load that type of normal map the seams will still be there, since its a break on vertex im afraid , im not very good explaining what i think , but i guess someone can explain too since its a subject i dont understand much about tangent /bitangents.

( i also get that alot in max , even with flat normal map , so i guess it depends on the engine sorry i cant help more /images/graemlins/frown.gif )

[TheSplash]

WoW Vahl, that character looks really nice. I think you did a really good job of making her look soft, you don't often see that done well. Great job with the cloth forms and the texturing on the skin.

[IronHawk]

Beautiful work Vahl. I like her look.

[Neox]

@johny: of course it's because of the uv splits i made, but i can't unwrap without having splits somewhere. And normally that shouldn't be needed, i mean it should be normal, i worked with engines 2 years back with way less features but no such issues with normalmaps.
Even the maxshaders bei Ben Cloward can handle it and they are no industry standard.
I'm really disappointe4d about having to change the design becaus of such simple stuff, shouldn't happen in modern engines. :/

So i guess i'm going to add straps and stuff over the seams and do it like the UT3 guys did with the hair, just do it almost black (which was planned, so no problem) and a little spec, so i hope the seams won't be too visible.

[commander_keen]

vahl: Really nice.

Rens: Awesome oldschool sculpting.

[adamlewis]

Rens: Very nice traditional work. I like the early forms/volume on your latest sculpt.


Another head study. Not totally happy with how it turned out, but I find with these type of studies it's better to just move on to your next one instead of tweaking your current piece obsessively.

http://www.adamvfx.com/head2.jpg

[okkun]

Neox, it looks like your unpack settings are bad.

What settings are you selecting when you import normals? Your compression has to be set to normal map on import. otherwise the unpack values get screwed and the only way to fix that is to manually edit them. Re-importing the same texture wont fix it.

One way to check it is if your normal map appears purple in the browser but dark blue in the shader. If not your unpack values are borked.

[Jeremy Lindstrom]

[ QUOTE ]
http://wip.global-illusions.com/WarGeneral/PilotFront2.jpg
unfinished, wip pose, blah blah blah

[/ QUOTE ]

Her face looks just like Amy Smart... Did you mean it too?

[MasteroftheFork]

Nice stuff guys...


He's got a cape now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/MasteroftheFork/DreamEater_wip08.jpg

[hawken]

wip for kids game

http://www.dadako.com/forums/draft06.png

[Neox]

[ QUOTE ]
Neox, it looks like your unpack settings are bad.

What settings are you selecting when you import normals? Your compression has to be set to normal map on import. otherwise the unpack values get screwed and the only way to fix that is to manually edit them. Re-importing the same texture wont fix it.

One way to check it is if your normal map appears purple in the browser but dark blue in the shader. If not your unpack values are borked.

[/ QUOTE ]

THANK YOU!
I didn't know that, phew, i already unwrapped him new and was ready to rebake all the maps.
There are still seams, but they won't be visible from a decent distance

thank you so much!

Another question for the UE3 is, is it possible to change the FOV of the camera in the modelviewer window? or do i have to place the character into a set?

@hawken: i really like the style, totally fits into a kids game!

[Rens]

ty guys /images/graemlins/smile.gif

last wip, ill make a 360.gif when its done and dry.

http://www.rensedeboer.com/sculptures/clay-sculpt-04-part-two.jpg