So what are you working on?

[Zcubed]

Texturing is frustrating /images/graemlins/mad.gif. I took a little break today and had some fun modeling this guy.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7761/fattyfatfat1zs.jpg


I think I'll optimize him after the Dom War ends and use it as a texturing project.

[Joseph Silverman]

[ QUOTE ]
Texturing is frustrating /images/graemlins/mad.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep. Trying to learn, tonight:
http://i2.tinypic.com/r1x54w.jpg

[JordanW]

Working on my own version of Frankenstein /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

http://www.mutantspoon.com/temp/fank3d.jpg

[Neo_God]

For my photoshop class, we're doing a matte painting project, and here's my work for it

I was trying to go for a cross between Caravaggio and Egon Schiele.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Elegantwaltzofthedeadman.jpg

[KDR_11k]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/KDR_11k/pics/pimp/shot00003.jpg

Her again. Except this time for Q4.

[sinistergfx]

Holy shits tinman, he's looking great. Looks like you're really starting to get a hang on ZBrush. Really nice exagerated forms.

[CheapAlert]

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/cutty.jpg

another one to add to my non-gargoyle model collection...

[Zwebbie]

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4756/verywipconscript3oz.png

Something about it is just totally, proportionally wrong, and he looks way too static, but what should I do to fix that?

[Manic]

Texture WIP, Chantelle, a pregnant chav...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bellevueroas/WIPtex2.jpg

[Joseph Silverman]

[ QUOTE ]
what should I do to fix that?

[/ QUOTE ]

Check is proportions to reference, and curve his spine a bit?

[JKMakowka]

[ QUOTE ]

another one to add to my non-gargoyle model collection...

[/ QUOTE ]
Yay for non gargoye models /images/graemlins/smile.gif
But his head looks a bit too round.

[CheapAlert]

it's meant to be that way

[ElysiumGX]

cheap: you funny guy you

[Etienne]

I didn't think CUTman was that buffy...
LOL

Etienne

[odium]

ATM I'm working on Misc Models for our new Q2E engine based game called "OverDose". http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose So in between new engine tests with high poly terrain and blending i'm making misc models for the map with local maps and specular.

I'll post a few shots here in diffuse lit only, and the rest can be viewed and downloaded here: http://www.quake2evolved.com/blurforum/s...p;threadid=2518 (http://www.quake2evolved.com/blurforum/showthread.php?s=947dd3aba3199a63e52ecf5beb4cbb97& threadid=2518)

http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose/downloads/mapmodels/od_fern.jpg

http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose/downloads/mapmodels/od_rolacola3.jpg

http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose/downloads/mapmodels/od_barrel2.jpg

http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose/downloads/mapmodels/od_concreteblock.jpg

http://www.quake2evolved.com/overdose/downloads/mapmodels/od_woodencrate2.jpg

Crate Texture (Click for high res):

http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/woodencrate2_d_small.jpg (http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/woodencrate2_d.jpg)

Like I said, I have done more and they are on the site above but progress is slow as its only me really doing anything ATM. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Zcubed]

Good stuff Odium, I didn't know people still modded with tech as old as Q2. Is there any reason that you guys haven't switched over to Q4 or UT2K4?

Optimized and unwrapped to use for some texturing practice...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5627/ogresdk2hw.jpg


I don't think I'll be able to get started on him until next week; I've got too much work right now. I guess I could host it somewhere if anyone else is bored and wants to take a crack at it.

[odium]

Zcubed: Yeah, Quake 2 is open Source and our engine ahs the features of D3/Q4 really anyways. Its per pixel lit, has support for MD5, materials, vertex fragment programs etc, plus we are adding our own physics engine soon as well, so its gonna be a question of do we want to make a mod, or a game. If we go with Q4 tech then it limits us /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Zcubed]

Ah, ok. I didn't realize you guys were making an entire game; that makes sense then. Nice work on the environmental stuff, and best of luck to your team. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Corry Frydlewicz]

[ QUOTE ]
Something about it is just totally, proportionally wrong, and he looks way too static, but what should I do to fix that?

[/ QUOTE ]
Change the skirt to something that's less flat? Like pants with a sash around the side or something...

[Fordy]

http://www.planetunreal.com/fordy/tmp_images/fantasyart-01.jpg

[ironbearxl]

speed modeling this girl's head before I go to bed:

http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/speed_girl.jpg

[Manic]

continued chaviness...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bellevueroas/chanttexfinal.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bellevueroas/wiresfinal.jpg

[MAUL0r]

More of this guy....
http://sacland.submatrix.org/crap/DT2.jpg

[Slaught]

Haha cool Zombie Maul0r! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Started the this a long time ago...maybe i can finally finish it now.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Dropkick60606/March06/lrapwip002.jpg

[aniceto]

just another zbrush/normal map test

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/shika01/22c5e704.jpg

[Marine]

http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/marine/zbrushstupidity.jpg
need to fix eyes and smoothen out some of the features, makes him look old-manish currently

[aesir]

Thats a really hard face to model marine. Good luck on getting the proportions down. Whats most off right imo is that the jaw isnt strong enough. Right now its coming in toward the face from the ear, but it should jut out more like in the picture. The brow also might need to be a tad bit higher. The mouth should be closer to the nose I think. And the chin has harder angles in how it juts out. And your neck looks a bit blobby...

Still, a nice start. Keep it up

[Joao Sapiro]

Blaarp ! texturing the full body ! if you guess who he is you get free candy !

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7191/ceeena2ox.jpg

[swampbug]

manic.. is that supposed to be a pregnant teenage girl?

[ScoobyDoofus]

Johny: Talk about improvement! Thats sharp work man! ....I have no idea who its supposed to be though.

His ears are a bit gigantic though, and a wee bit high up.

[ebagg]

Johny, it's John Ceena (sp?) from WWE.

[Corry Frydlewicz]

Just finished unwrapping and starter textured the armors.

The topic link is in my sig. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

http://gh0st.scroff.us/Uploaded/Neza41_01_thumb.jpg (http://gh0st.scroff.us/Uploaded/Neza41_01.jpg)

[adam crockett]

The first of six characters I'm making for a portfolio update. I'm Finally taking the initiative to work on things at home. His name is 'Smash'...for now.


http://www.adamcrockett.com/SmashShot.jpg

[Manic]

swampbug... yeah, she's about 16!

[HandSandwich]

Nice Zombie, Maulor. I like the pocket protector. Its shows that he's a professional in the detective field.

[blacksmithx]

Snake guy is coming along.

http://www.hxndesigns.com/polycount/snakeman3.jpg

[Weiser_Cain]

I've seen enter the dragon over 600 times

[cholden]

Nice Cena, Johny! Very recognizable.

[donmario]

hi /images/graemlins/wink.gif
it's my last work, 3278 tris
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5237/0a2zh.jpg

[hawken]

what your last ever!?

[donmario]

last finished works /images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/1513/88ys.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6633/71ko.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8140/132tk.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4317/79wv.jpg

[JKMakowka]

Is that unfinished model with a normal map? Cause it looks like a lot more polys than those few you mentioned.

[Daz]

The girl is stunning donmario. Really nice work there. On both models the feet could use tweaking perhaps. Hers are very narrow in front ortho ( but perhaps you have a lot of fov ), and his have a sort of bulbous clown shoe thing going on. But good work.

[Justin Meisse]

speed modeling! 1 hour
http://www.artbyjustin.com/models/speed/campfire.jpg

[Justin Meisse]

another, didn't pay attention to time though
http://www.artbyjustin.com/models/speed/lantern01.jpg

[Joseph Silverman]

A mess of mistakes and (beginner's) experimental topology:
http://i2.tinypic.com/rj06z8.jpg

The lips are a mess. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[adam crockett]

An update on Smash.
]http://www.adamcrockett.com/Smashshot2.jpg

http://www.adamcrockett.com/smash_orthos.jpg

[ironbearxl]

looking good adam, the chest armor looks like it's a little high up on his chest though.

[adam crockett]

Do you think so? I pictured it being almost like a plated corset. I wanted it just under his pecs. I suppose I could drop it down lower and see how that looks. How do you picture it looking?

Edit: now that I look at it again, I see what you are saying. In the drawing there is much more chest showing than on the model. Good call.

[Justin Meisse]

modeled and uv'd in about 30 minutes, fiddled with the texture for about an hour
http://www.artbyjustin.com/models/speed/chop.jpg

[adam crockett]

Worked on smash a bit more. Dropped the top of his armor down, straightened his legs out, attached his hands, sculpted the horns a bit. Comments welcome.

http://www.adamcrockett.com/smashshot3.jpg

[Ferg]

I like this guy... my only crit is his chin is way too sharp. I'd suggest adding another loop

|
|_ <----so instead of this

|
\_ <----you have this

[adam crockett]

Thanks Ferg

Yeah, I totally agree. I'd been eyeballing that, actually, but I was putting work into areas that needed things that were more drastic than that. I actually haven't put much work into his face yet, I still need to refine what little face is poking out of his helmet, with more edge loops around his mouth for deformation...and mouth interior, teeth, tounge, etc.

[Gmanx]

My first real Blender subD model.

http://www.gmanx.com/album/sheds/Brute_01.jpg

http://www.gmanx.com/album/sheds/Brute_Blender.jpg

and the control cage wire.

http://www.gmanx.com/album/sheds/bruteWire.jpg

Based loosely on this cartoon concept.

http://www.gmanx.com/album/sheds/BruteConcept.jpg

[ironbearxl]

awesome gmanx! Blender is my favorite modeler right now.
I dusted this old model off today, gonna work on the spec color map next to make it sparkle:
http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/sylia_icee.jpg

[Justin Meisse]

zdoodlin'
http://www.artbyjustin.com/models/zdoodle/ogre001.jpg

[Neo_God]

Continued my zombie revamp, so far I've been making him pre-zombified

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Borisbody.jpg

to compare him to the old model
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Zombieundieshead.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Zombieundies1.jpg

[Sectaurs]

big improvement. now kill him, and reanimate him!

[Makkon]

Havn't been a while. Missed the PC general deadline...

I just have to say that Asian women can be very beautiful:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/Makkon/AsianFace.jpg

[adam crockett]

I got rid of as many polygons as I could spare, while retaining a nice shape. What do you think? See any more I could get rid of?
http://www.adamcrockett.com/smashshot4b.jpg

[hawken]

bleagh

http://dadako.com/forums/monekybike-characters.jpg

[ScoobyDoofus]

Adam: I think maybe you've got your numbers reversed.

I'd say you could do without a few more polys on that gloved hand. The ring you've got going through the abdomen doesnt seem to be contributing much to the silhouette, but Im guess it'll be nice when it comes to animation/deformation.

[Vitor]

Something i'm working for a free game:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8956/zym036rz.jpg

[CheapAlert]

i made a crappy railgun with skin to replace the horrible rail rifle in my project
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/openarena/oarail2.jpg

[Thegodzero]

Very sexy Vitor!

[Electro]

[ QUOTE ]
i made a crappy railgun with skin to replace the horrible rail rifle in my project


[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah it is crappy.

[sevenfingers]

I call him, Mantula!
http://sevenfingerart.com/portfolio/Tiles%20and%20static%20sprites/penishead.gif
12 colours. Around 30 min or an hour of work.

http://sevenfingerart.com/portfolio/Animation/mentula_anim.gif

Humping action!

[Weiser_Cain]

Looks like Darth Malak vitor.

[CheapAlert]

another memorable game character finished.

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/omg.jpg

[adam crockett]

[ QUOTE ]
Adam: I think maybe you've got your numbers reversed.

I'd say you could do without a few more polys on that gloved hand. The ring you've got going through the abdomen doesnt seem to be contributing much to the silhouette, but Im guess it'll be nice when it comes to animation/deformation.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, yeah they are reversed. I'd even caught it and fixed it in a new image, but forgot to update it! What can I say, it was late. Thanks for pointing it out though, I fixed it now.

Which ring are you talking about, the one going through his belly armor? I figured I'd need at least one edgeloop there for deformation, and it affects the silhouette more from the side. I'll look into the gloved hand next time I work on it, hopefully tonight. Thanks for commenting!

[Ruz]

some great stuff ther donmario, you got a good likeness in the guy in the suit and the chick is hard to fault. perhaps her shoulders are a tad too bulky, but thats down to personal preference I suppose

[Gmanx]

IronbearXL - Thanks, that model's looking sweet.
Vitor - nice work!

Trying to get the inner mouth modeled. I can't decide whether to separate the bottom jaw to make the job easier - then re-attach it later.

http://www.gmanx.com/album/sheds/teeth.jpg

[LordScottish]

The Combine African Corps is the hardest unit to get in and one of the most venturous parts of the Combine Army. The environmental conditions in certain parts of Africa are too extreme for parts of the Combine technology, more simple and reliable weaponsystems are used instead. The population is heavily armed and poor. Many of the warlords reorganized themselfes to resist against the Combine rule. They're stiff-necked and incalculable fighters, especially when they're drugged with Khat. The CAC is the Combine answer to this threat to the progress of mankind.
http://scotty.inri.ch/images/cac.jpg
A reskin I did today. The credits go to valve, I just used plenty of overlays and repainted some shading and parts of the texture.

[Neo_God]

pretty cool lordscottish, is this for a mod?

[LordScottish]

Thanks Neo_God! I'd like to make a level about the resistance against the Combine in East Africa someday, but that's just daydreaming /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Valandar]

Got asked to help with a Dawn of War mod, specifically modelling and animating an Inquisitor. The concept was based on this guy:

http://www.figurinepainters.com/sezioni.php?action=content&idsezione=27&cat=3-showcase-eng

although I was told to remove the rifle, as he would not be using / needing it.

This is his current state:

http://valandar3d.fools3d.com/inq01front.jpg

He's sitting at 2773 tris, all told. Also, there will be no normal, spec, or bump map - DoW only accepts diffuse and Ambient maps. And then, some areas will be greyscale so they can be Team Colorable, specifically the breastplate and gloves.

[dfacto]

Who wants some pie?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/dfacto/Mmmm_pie.jpg
116 tris

[dfacto]

Ok, then who wants an ortho?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/dfacto/worker_7.jpg

[rawkstar]

reminds me of the vault costumes from van burren (black isle's fo3)

[Neo_God]

I still want to add some more minure detail to his clothes. Things like seams and what not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Body1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/body2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/body3.jpg

[CheapAlert]

now those are some really broken toes. Straighten em up!

[EarthQuake]

ahhhhh came across this old model and had to fix it up a bit, NOW FOR SLEEPS.
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/crash/earthquake/newdevon02.jpg

[Thegodzero]

neo he really needs to have a more sunken in eye soket and more darkness around the eye. He also needs viens all black and dead yet full. check out my huntress chicks chest for what i'm talking about.

[Gmanx]

His pants are really shiny!? Save the spec for the goo!

[Joao Sapiro]

neo_god, his texture is too crispy, tone it down a little /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[dfacto]

[ QUOTE ]
reminds me of the vault costumes from van burren (black isle's fo3)

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh? Fallout 3? That doesn't exist yet though. :/

[Neo_God]

Well cheap, I have seen feet where the toes are bent out like that, but maybe I'll be bend thim in a little.

TGZ, thanks, I'll add in some nice black veins, also I forgot to sink the eye in a little.

Gman, I think so too, the spec map was a quick job, just because I wanted to show something off.

Johny, the resons it's so crispy, is because I rendered it sans Anti-aliasing and the textures are not filtered.

Thanks for the comments!

[poopinmymouth]

[ QUOTE ]

http://scotty.inri.ch/images/cac.jpg


[/ QUOTE ]

Someone copied my idea! and it was YOU!!!!!

http://www.poopinmymouth.com/images/poop.gif (http://www.poopinmymouth.com)

[MoP]

Modelled the base mesh for this guy this evening. Gonna take him into ZBrush tonight... aiming for realism.

http://ldaustinart.com/paul/high-head1.jpg

[rawkstar]

dfacto: i meant Van Burren, the game that was in development at Black Isle and was supposed to be fallout 3, but got canceled before Bethesda acquired the rights to it. heres an early screenshot from that game ( http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=129 )

[dfacto]

Wow, never heard of that Mr_Rockstar. I always thought it was something that had never seen the light of day, aside from that gasbot conceptart that made the rounds.

[rawkstar]

yeah a bunch of screenshot got released they're all on that site.

[Electro]

MoP you're a madman, keep it coming! can't wait to see how it turns out /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Renardin]

http://www.cncreborn.planetcnc.gamespy.com/forum/files/flamerwip_184.jpg

About to texture that weapon. I just added simple textures to separate the parts.

It's still for this mod:

http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/63/631/gallery/water_37389.jpg Does someone know it? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Neo_God]

Alright, here it is with Antialiasing, and texture filters turned on, I usually turn them off, because there are times when I like it to look gritty and raw, you know?. I tweaked him around a bit as well.

Oh yes, this model is also 2308 tris

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Boris1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Boris2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Boris3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Neo_God/Zombie/Boris4.jpg

[MoP]

Not bad for half a night's work, I'd say:

http://ldaustinart.com/paul/3d/oldhead_01.jpg

[Neo_God]

I'm really digging the subtle asymmetry, mop!

[spacemonkey]

cool mop, the ears scream to me that they havent received much attention but the head is looking good! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[odium]

Amazing mop, simply amazing.

[DarthRevanII]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/SpartnII/e0c6d06a.jpg

[Joao Sapiro]

very good looking mop , clean as usual /images/graemlins/wink.gif , did you use projection master ?

[ScoobyDoofus]

Looks pretty great MoP!
I dont know if youre planning on revisiting this guy or doing any more work, but I'd say he could use a bit more medium frequency detail. You've got some fine wrinkles, skin bumpyness, etc. You've got the major forms...but seemingly missing the inbetween forms. The jaw looks a littl sharp for the head shape you've defined so far. I'd say go down to a low level of sub division and run an inflate tool along that jawline. The nostril interiors look a tad sharp as well...ears too!

[Toomas]

MoP: i have to agree with Scoobs, right now it looks like you just threw a bump map on your hi res model.
And please if you revisit him do a proper ear.

[MoP]

Good calls Spacemonkey and Scoob, I was thinking the exact same thing myself. it seems to happen with a lot of the Zbrush stuff I do... I'll get a rough base sorted out, then immediately jump into the fine detail without spending long enough on the "in-between" stage. I'll go over him again to get more medium frequency detail in and sort out those ears.

Also might take a shot at texturing him realistically to see how believable I can get it.

[MoP]

OK, spent another hour or so just going over it, bringing out the forms a little more and adding some detail. He's even a bit more exaggerated than the photo refs I'm using... the real guy's face is actually pretty smooth for the most part. I've made him appear a little older and heavy-set here.

Here's the new version (compare with old one (http://ldaustinart.com/paul/3d/oldhead_01.jpg))

http://ldaustinart.com/paul/3d/old2head_01.jpg

I reckon if he was textured up properly now, he'd look pretty damn realistic.

Toomas: Can you give me some idea of what a "proper ear" looks like?

[Ruz]

did a quick paintover MOP, hope you don't mind.
I just figured you needed to bring out the bone structure a little more.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8208/paintover2ia.jpg

[MoP]

Good call Ruz, in fact you made me look at my refs again and I realised there's a whole host of things I've overlooked. I'll try to sort it all out tomorrow. Cheers! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Thegodzero]

http://www.tgz3d.com/ZBTres.jpg

[Ruz]

no prbs MOP. looking good overall anyway. nice surface detail

[Toomas]

"Proper ear" looks like an ear not like something that looks somewhat like an ear.
The ear has specific anatomy just like all other part of the body. While its rather small its also rather complex so i guess most people think its not worth to invest a lot of time perfecting it. Thats why its usully the weakest part of most hi res head models.
I would reccomend getting lots of refs and invest some time to make a very good base ear that you can reuse with some tweaks on all your human heads.

[MoP]

http://www.ldaustinart.com/paul/3d/head_01.jpg

OK, I'm calling him done. Altered the cheekbone and cranium areas a little, did some work on the ears to make them look more natural.

[Toomas]

The ears are much better, they have more volume and less awkwardly sharp edges.
And the pores on the tip of the nose bother me for some reason, it would look better with smooth skin there.

[Valandar]

I actually disagree with the pores on the tip of the nose, Toomas, mainly because the tip of my own nose has quite prominant pores. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[vahl]

lookin' cool MoP, although I still think the ears lack volume/fleshy feeling...hard to render tho, I know, but he would really benefit from this, the rest of the model is pretty damn cool
details on the lips are nice /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Daz]

Paul, that's really damn nice. The pores look fine I think. If you're done you're done, but If you were to pick it up again I'd re-examine where the bottom of the nose in between the nostrils joins the face. In reality, that's actually a really complex connection and worth spending the time on If you can.

This is pretty comprehensive ref:

www.daz-art.com/mouthrotate.mov (http://www.daz-art.com/mouthrotate.mov)

[ScoobyDoofus]

Daz always has the best refs...

[JordanW]

more work on frankenguy
http://www.mutantspoon.com/temp/fank3d2.jpg

[rawkstar]

lol NICE! hehe add more detail to the flesh it looks mostly blobby, especially the places where the inorganic stuff goes into the flesh. shaping up pretty cool!

[cep]

Eh mop, that looks great. I think the brow looks too sharp, the skin looks very tight around that area. The bags under his eyes suggest his skin sags a bit. I may be too anal, but if I had to say one thing about the model that'd be it. Great work.

[MoP]

very awesome daz, thanks!

cheers for the crits guys, now i know what to look out for on my next head /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SouL]

Here's a paintover:
http://www.polycount.com/cottages/souldesigns/head_01_mop.jpg

The eyes were the first thing that jumped out at me. The eybrow's distance relative to the eyeball is fairly fixed. So you have to have a trade off between showing more eyelids (a more youthful, femenine eye shape) versus showing more of the upper eye pouch. The more of that pouch you have the less of the upper eyelid you'll see because it droops down. Very common on older folks.
Also, keep in mind the round shape of the eyes and how the lids countour that shape. Your eyes felt really flat (could have been due to the lack of specular). But forcing the highlight towards the center of the eyelids gives it a much more round effect.
Another thing to consider is the thickness of the lids and to try and show the inside pink area. This'll really bring your eye structure to life and add that much more believability to your work.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about:
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/souldesigns/painter_bs.jpg
Having some kind of eyelashes and having them cast shadows on the eyeball would really help, too.

The mouth area... be careful not to add a harsh line to seperate the lower lip from the face. The only thing that really distinguishes the outer corners of the lower lip from the face is the value change. The planar change that happens is more eviden in the center... where you get an upside-down U type of shadow being cast.
You got the corners of the lips pretty good.

The nose is kind of tricky... specially around the nostril area. It's kind of hard to describe in text, so try and look up reference. Try and look at what's going on in the shadow areas under the nose.
The best way to think of it is to not have the nostril cut into and stop at the upper mouth. Have it swoop on top and continut towards the center of the noise. Try and get the plane betwem the upper mouth and the very bottom of the nostril.
It also helps to just paint in the black of the nostrils... it's always kind of goofy when light reflects back up into the nostrils in 3d renders.

Hope that helps.

[MoP]

OK, I retract my earlier "self-propelled rotating arse in space" comment, SouL /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Thanks for those pointers. I agree with the majority of them, however what you said about the lower lip harsh edge I'm gonna have to disagree with. Some people have them, some don't - the photo ref I'm working from shows a distinct hard edge highlight over where the value changes from chin to lower lip (take a look at this ref image (http://free-textures.got3d.com/natural/free-character-references/free-character-texture-references-man-1/images/free-character-texture-references-man-102.jpg)) - I maybe made it too pronounced, yes, but I don't think it needs to be smoothed out quite as much as you think.

Good call on the eyelids and definition/height of the eyebrow line, I compared with my refs again and realised I mustn't have been paying much attention to that area.

I think the appearance of the eye seeming flat is just like you said a specular and lighting issue, since I built the lids over the sphere of the eye and the eyelid shape on the model extends to the limits shown on the reference. Possibly I made him a little too squinting, which is hiding the spherical shape a little.

Cheers for the paintover and crits though, good help! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SouL]

Ooh good call on that ref. Mine are pretty soft. Almost femenine.
It's a good head... just missing some elements that make it more complete, I guess.

[Joseph Silverman]

http://i1.tinypic.com/s5bkfs.jpg

Fairly pathetic attempt at working out high poly male arms.

Also, too small for the body.

[rawkstar]

very early, just been messing with it today.

http://www.t3h-v.com/WIP/cb_wip2.jpg

[swampbug]

After I remove the icepack, I use a deep
pore-cleanser lotion. In the shower, I use a
water-activated gel cleanser, then a honey-almond body
scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. :P

am I right?

nice Rockstar.

[rawkstar]

yeah there is an idea, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me.

[Lee3dee]

Rockstar he looks like christian bale from batman begins.

[Daz]

[ QUOTE ]
Rockstar he looks like christian bale from batman begins.

[/ QUOTE ]

Erm yeah, as mentioned above!

Too gaunt for batman begins though. The model is recognisable, but I don't think I'd have got it without the profile shot (which is pretty spot on). The front and 3/4 view seems off. Not quite sure how yet. Looks good though mate. Definitely recognisable.

[Bryan Cavett]

Nice rockstar. Looks like him
Can anyone recongnize this guy? Probably not as recognizable as yours though rockstar.

http://www.bryancavett.com/misc/german01.jpg

[MoP]

Don't recognise the guy, but the model looks cool, Bryan. Zbrush, yeah?

Rockstar: Yours is recognisable but somehow looks like your War General too /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Valandar]

Colonel Klink?

[Justin Meisse]

[ QUOTE ]
Nice rockstar. Looks like him
Can anyone recongnize this guy? Probably not as recognizable as yours though rockstar.


[/ QUOTE ]

It looks a little like Heinrich Himmler

[Bryan Cavett]

You are correct Justin.

Mop: Its only a little zbrush.

I had some crappy pictures to work off of... and they were from different ages. I was worried he didnt look like him.

[JKMakowka]

The skull on his hat gave it kinda away /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Fordy]

For a texture comp hand painted in Photoshop and ZBrush 2, 512 x 512 Tileable horizontally only.
http://www.planetunreal.com/fordy/portfolio/artwork/oldstonewall.jpg

[JKMakowka]

Looks cool, but what kind of material is it supposed to be?
Lizard skin?

[CMB]

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9467/xmbref4ah.jpg
Suprore ,I made you a real quick paintover.

[Joseph Silverman]

You're not invited for tea, man. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

http://i2.tinypic.com/saw94i.gif

[JordanW]

still crankin'
http://www.mutantspoon.com/temp/fank3d3.jpg

[Fordy]

[ QUOTE ]
Looks cool, but what kind of material is it supposed to be?
Lizard skin?

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/ooo.gif err, almost, supposed to be an ancient wall /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[sinistergfx]

fordy: Looks decent, but -really- flat. You could have some of bricks sticking out or be recessed and have some shadow casting in there. Vary the brightness and color values of the bricks, right now it just looks like one solid piece with grout carved into it.

tinman: Looking pretty hot. He's positively repulsive. I'm still undecided on his face... It just seems to lack character for me. You using that intersection technique we talked about yesterday, or did you figure something else out?

[Fordy]

Cheers for the crits Sinister, I knew there was something missing (just wasnt sure what!):)
http://www.planetunreal.com/fordy/portfolio/artwork/oldstonewall1.jpg

[Vitor]

Some head modeling pratise. Not finished thou:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2273/headb4mt.jpg

[Valandar]

Vitor: Looks like a young'en. But isn't the nose too high up on the face? I thought the bottom of the nose was 2/3 the distance between the line of the center of the eyes and the line of the mouth...

[Ruz]

Suprore, thats coming along niceely man

[killingpeople]

very nice work in this thread lately

[KDR_11k]

[ QUOTE ]
very nice work in this thread lately

[/ QUOTE ]

Indeed. Time to drag down ze durchschnitt!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/KDR_11k/pics/pimp/01.jpg

[Thegodzero]

http://www.tgz3d.com/ZBTres4.jpg

[ironbearxl]

look familiar?:
http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/actor_1.jpg

[KDR_11k]

It looks like you're not properly mirroring it, did you put the subsurf modifier before the mirror?

[ironbearxl]

oops, thank KDR. I put the subsurf under the mirror and that fixed it /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[HonkyPunch]

Tinman, I love that thing.
SO repulsive, yet huggable at the same time.
(if you wanted to get crushed, o'course.

[JKMakowka]

[ QUOTE ]
look familiar?:
http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/actor_1.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Can't tell who he is, but the mesh looks really good so far!
Mind showing wires?

[ironbearxl]

wires: http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/actor_wire.jpg

[donmario]

small update /images/graemlins/smile.gif, here is wip http://www.max3d.pl/forum/showthread.php?t=24320

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8241/f134kg.jpg

[steady]

hey donmario that looks great! any chance we could see a wire shot, and a side view? Christopher Walken definitely needs his own video game!

[Joao Sapiro]

Doodad ! very W.I.P...y !

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3396/gezu5gd.gif

[Keg]

magic floating hands?

[MoP]

he just wants a backwards floating hug

[Valandar]

Ironbearxl: Is that Peter Weller?

[shincartoon]

Enter the dragon /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/92/bruce9wj.jpg

[ironbearxl]

Haha it's supposed to look like John Travolta, maybe he looks too aged?

[Vitor]

Looks great johny, but i'm not ver fan of that old-japanse-alike shoe... reminds me those crazy costumes from japanese rpgs anyways /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[notman]

I can see Travolta now that you stated his name. I think the lack of completed eyes fooled me. It does resemble him really well though.

[Valandar]

I SWEAR he still looks like Peter Weller... Watch the initial scenes of Robocop to see what I mean. :P

[notman]

It's probably the chin making you thing that. They both have the same clef(sp?) in it.

[hawken]

[ QUOTE ]
look familiar?:
http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/actor_1.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

robocop?

[Valandar]

It's the eyes, too... especially with the unfinished eye making them look really pale, like Weller's.

I can see Travolta, too, but more of the 'Be Cool' era Travolta, when he was a bit heavier and had his hair slicked back.

[Xenobond]

That chin totally screams Danial Craig.

[ironbearxl]

The reference I used was the 'be cool' era Travolta lol.

[ewooz]

http://home.online.no/~bjo.joh/scania2_thumb.jpg (http://home.online.no/~bjo.joh/scania2.jpg)

http://home.online.no/~bjo.joh/scania1_thumb.jpg (http://home.online.no/~bjo.joh/scania1.jpg)
Remaining still is the texturing of the wagon and a Leopard 2 tank on top of the wagon. That's all coming up.

[aniceto]

working on a self-portrait /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/shika01/assfacewip.jpg

[ander]

Lo! This is my first post, with a model. :P

Aniceto, you look mean. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Anyway, this is my first texture you might say. I have tried texturing before and I have failed. I have a plan to finish this. Normally I can't even finish small stuff. Let's hope this gets done! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2019/tanktank0xb.jpg

[steady]

yay and0rrr
lookin kewl haha old school greyscale method

[rawkstar]

so i did an old guy

http://www.t3h-v.com/folio/oldman1.jpg

[MoP]

[ QUOTE ]
so i did an old guy

[/ QUOTE ]

I bet you both loved it.

Seriously though that's pretty nice. I feel that the crease at the top of the upper lip is too hard and sharp though, older people really have softer, more "bloated" features like that, nothing really stays sharp but the wrinkles /images/graemlins/smile.gif

also maybe the neck could have more droopy hanging skin, that always looks cool.

in general it looks nice though /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[CMB]

Mop: that upper lip crease is called a filltrum(philtrum also a possible spelling).

Anciento:
looks like this model. Use it as a reference.
http://www.guntharf.easynet.be/brol/head_gourou_final_render.jpg

[MoP]

No, I wasn't talking about the philtrum, I was talking about the actual line over the whole of the top of the upper lip, running from corner to corner.

[Zcubed]

I hath revived the amphibious knight!

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1161/nostalgia9dv.jpg

Cool stuff, Rockstar.

[nealb4me]

Nice Scania ewooz. I think the front fenders are too deep on top though and the headlights are a little too far back.

pic (http://www.truck-traders.net/foto's/trucks/scania/Scania%20113-360%2090%20avg.JPG)

Whats it for anyways?

[ironbearxl]

cool zcubed are you gonna put him into zbrush?

more travolta, before zbrush pass:
http://members.cox.net/ironbearxl/actor_2.jpg

[arshlevon]

cool rockstar, but yeah he dosent look very old, he looks like
a young guy with wrinkles. old people generally have little to no lips, almost like a puckered sphincter below there nose, and everying should be a little saggy like the skin is drooping off the bones. great job on the execution none the less, your stuff keeps getting cleaner and cleaner.

[ewooz]

Thanks for pointing that out nealb4me. I think the headlights look ok, check this image (http://home.online.no/~bjo.joh/scania_tank.jpg) out. And as you can see I still have to fix an higher edge where the windscreen starts, as you can see from the image.

It is for a truck simulator. You're actually sitting in a real truck with large screens both in front and for the back view.

[Jaco]

a normal mapped head

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Jacoh/Head_1.jpg

[Jaco]

Playing with the deco brush:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Jacoh/Deco-Brush1.jpg

[Renaud Galand]

CMB : I don't know if my model is a good base for his very low poly head (very different shapes etc), but of course, feel free to use it aniceto !

Rockstar : Very nice mesh indeed ! I'm not very found of the upper lip's Wrinkles. It looks like they are'nt follwing any face muscles of something, maybe it's just me.

[Ruz]

rockstar thats really looking great so far. I disagree on the lips, seems that more of a stylistic thing.
love the surface detail

[vahl]

nice hair Jaco

[MoP]

Yeah, that's one of the best uses of ZB for hair that I've seen! Nice work Jaco /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Justin Meisse]

How to look productive when you're actually not trick #1:
pimp something old that you haven't pimped
http://www.artbyjustin.com/models/noshead.gif

[Striff]

Been taking this one slow....been learning a ton about Maya and Photoshop..hope to get it finished this week or next.



http://www.guildmidnight.com/renders/d-day/01.jpg

[EarthQuake]

bit more zbrushing in the little free time i have these days....
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/crash/earthquake/newdevon04.jpg

[ander]

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8881/tanktank26cq.jpg

Had some more free time. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
The barrel will get changed, its very sucky right now.

[KDR_11k]

EQ: The face is too far forward.

[dfacto]

EQ, pretty model, freaky anatomy.

Her face looks like it's trying to escape her head.

[Jaco]

Thanks guys!I wouldn't mind doing a little tutorial if anyone is interested...

[LordScottish]

I am interested Jaco /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[rooster]

yeah ditto

[MoP]

Hehe, Dfacto and KDR_11k are right, her face is pretty far forward... cranium is too big.
Also her ears are kinda large and mannish, they should be smaller and more delicate... just a bit lumpy at the moment.
Keep it up.

Jaco: Please do! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[neolith]

I haven't posted in ages. Maybe because I haven't really modeled in ages.
Since I need some highpoly practice, I'm going to make me a little Warcraft nightelf:
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/172/testrender013ku.jpg
Still very wip.

[Jaco]

I'll get started right away then /images/graemlins/smile.gif


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Jacoh/Head_2.jpg

[Toomas]

Jaco really great work, only that there is this rather sharp line, running parallel with the hair line in front of the head, that does not look realistic atall.

[Vitor]

Great stuff being pimped latelly /images/graemlins/wink.gif Keep it up

Did some more work on this. I might try out some texturing with this one. Never really done textureing on highpoly models.

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/8023/head2224nm.jpg

[rooster]

just an idea
http://www.rooster13.plus.com/dude.jpg

[EarthQuake]

dfacto: plz dont fear alien girl.
jaco: WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU COME FROM?

[vahl]

Jaco : great stuff, although the top front of the hair is not as natural as the sides (which really look cool), and the ears don't seem to be anatomically correct ( like too deep or something)

great stuff tho, looking forward for the tut /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Marine]

[ QUOTE ]
jaco: WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU COME FROM?

[/ QUOTE ]
we're not having the birds and the bees talk until you're older, eq.

your stuff's great, jaco, would like to see the tut too, and a finished piece as well /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Joao Sapiro]

jaco : great stuff going on there !

Vitor : that face looks Waay better now !

[rooster]

practice:
http://www.rooster13.plus.com/steammodel.jpg

[rooster]

erk the vert lighting gives him camel toe /images/graemlins/ooo.gif. must do something about that..
http://www.rooster13.plus.com/dude3.jpg

[CheapAlert]

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/looowpistol.jpg

bored, im really making the "tiniest tc ever" for quake shooting for like half the specs quake itself has, for the sake of portability in autodownloads (since obtaining mods is the cause of quake disinterest imo)

[MoP]

http://www.ldaustinart.com/paul/3d/head2_01.jpg

[Joao Sapiro]

/kills mop and steals talent

[Zcubed]

That's pretty sweet, Mop. Did you tweak your last head, or were you crazy enough to build a new one from scratch? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Johny, are you still planning to release that video on face painting? I'd really like to see it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MoP]

Oh, I built a new one from scratch. This one is still largely WIP. Some of the edge loops I'm not too happy with (got some issues in ZBrush), but it's going ok. I'll see what I can do about hair... I tried Jaco's method earlier tonight but wasn't having much luck, I think I just need to practise.

[Hollowmind]

Nice MoP, looks like the guy from Law & Order: SVU. The one that's the head of the department.

[Thegodzero]

http://www.tgz3d.com/GlaceDS.jpg had some fun with making glace in 3d to pass some time.

[ironbearxl]

cool TGZ, is a sequel on the way?

[jimiyo]

i dont post much. cause i dont do much. but heres something new...

http://www.jimiyo.com/2006/lion3de.jpg

[Striff]

http://www.guildmidnight.com/renders/d-day/02.jpg

Got a little bit more done..doing it for my high school senior project.

I don't know if I'm really happy with the grass and the dirt texture, I'm trying to think of ways to break it up, but Maya isn't really made for this sort of stuff it seems!

[Thegodzero]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif :looks around: maybe.... /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[HandSandwich]

Pirate ship treehouse. Beginning of a new portfolio piece.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c44/deadxiii/03.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c44/deadxiii/03Wire.jpg

[hawken]

gor blimey guv, london init!

http://www.dadako.com/forums/all-revised.png

[Toomas]

hawken you are sick.

[Sa74n]

damn that rocks.. gotta luv pixel art.

[Ninjas]

Hey Hawken, are you making a game with all that sweet art?

[b1ll]

o0mg make a pixel b1ll dude! DO IT

[vahl]

really neat hawken /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MoP]

hawken, those kick ass

[Fuse]

holy attention to detail batman, that looks very immaculate hawken

[LordScottish]

I'm looking forward to this AHotHandSandwich! Looks very promising so far.
Your pixelstuff is so neat hawken

[Jaco]

I want that black car in the second-to-last pic. Now.
One question, does london's population consist of moustached, red specs wearing men? /images/graemlins/smile.gif
WIP, I know. I want the bicycle too.

[diZzyWalnut]

since 2 months I didn't touch my PC cause I've moved in new flat ( bigger one - one room just for me and my PC /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).
So what am I working on at last time ?
3-4 week-ends I'm working on my kitchen and now I see what's the real 3D is ! /images/graemlins/mad.gif
http://www.miseryproduction.com/divers/real3d.jpg

...and anyway I've found a little bit time to take off a dust from my PC - Vincent Vega in W.I.P.

http://www.miseryproduction.com/divers/vincentvega_1.jpg

[Joao Sapiro]

hawken you fucking rule pixel art ! so clean and beautifull ! have a beer /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[aesir]

dizzy: that is sooo john travolta

[Steakhouse]

Travolta? I was going to say Romero.

[noritsune]

hey everyone -

first time posting on the polycount boards, but have been watching the fracas over the shoulder of my coworker for a few months now. Thought it would be fun to post a (very) wip pic of a setting I'm working on in the evenings:

http://www.scottduquette.com/rococo_room_01_004_th.jpg (http://www.scottduquette.com/rococo_room_01_004.jpg)

it's just starting to get off the ground, so it'd be great to hear any suggestions. just a handful of triangles, and a bunch of textures. rendered in mental ray... dont suppose anyone out there knows tricks to cut back on the mip-mapping? I'm just learning the mr ropes.

[oliver]

[ QUOTE ]
since 2 months I didn't touch my PC cause I've moved in new flat ( bigger one - one room just for me and my PC /images/graemlins/laugh.gif).
So what am I working on at last time ?
3-4 week-ends I'm working on my kitchen and now I see what's the real 3D is ! /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Your kitchen looks great, welcome to Castanet...
Anyway the head looks good /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[diZzyWalnut]

[ QUOTE ]
dizzy: that is sooo john travolta

[/ QUOTE ]
I try the best (still learning),...thanks.

[ QUOTE ]
Travolta? I was going to say Romero.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's completly wrong my boy.
If You look closer - You should be to discover that's Nicole Kidman travesti as Vincent Vega (http://www.miseryproduction.com/divers/vincentvega_1.jpg) /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[HandSandwich]

Little update.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c44/deadxiii/04.jpg

Also, I just redid my site, so if anyone wants to drop past and tell me what they think, it'd be great.

[Ninjas]

Noritsune.

In MR under render settings, the quality of your render is on the left hand and says something like "samples" at the top, with two drop down boxes (I usually set these at 4/16 for a good still render). Now the one on the right side says "filter". Change it to "box", "zero". The removes texture blurriness completely.

[noritsune]

thanks man. will be starting a new thread for that baroque scene once it's further along - check for results there. =)

[XepptizZ]

lowPoly FTW
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4144/wip27ss.jpg

[Sectaurs]

my viking for the latest CGchat comp.

I'm trying to go in a new direction... never really done the 'cartoony' stylization
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Sectaurs/Pimpage/Viking_02.jpg

[Jaco]

Brilliant! There's a baby in there, right?

[Ninjas]

That is cool Sectaurs. I think you have really pushed the cartooniness to the extreme and I like it!

[edit]
My wife says it looks cute too.

[KDR_11k]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/KDR_11k/pics/pimp/render06.jpg

Getting there.

Sectaurs: The eyes look a bit creepy. Either remove the highlights or draw the eyes, a big black shiny thing usually looks very alien-like.

[MoP]

Sectaurs: Nice work, man! I dig how you've managed that one, the giant helmet and beard works really well. I agree with KDR though, those eyes are looking a tad creepy-alien at the moment /images/graemlins/smile.gif

KDR: Can't you post a shot showing the normal map at work? My eyes can't interpret red and green tangents, you see...
She's looking good though, seems to maybe be leaning forward a bit too much? Also I'd put an extra edge in around the knee area, where it goes up to the thigh is very obviously lowpoly and too sharp. Also the shape of the feet could be more accurate.
I like how the head, hair and hat is looking though - good work!

[KDR_11k]

I'll see if that xNormals thing can render them because Blender can't. At least not properly. But first I have to satisfy the program's dependencies, IE 5.1 and .net 2.0. Man, I feel like I'm using Linux (except Linux can install dependencies automatically).